Fascism arrives in full swing (was The most important thing right now....)

drummerboy said:

and right on cue

 Yeah. I saw that.  We always must tear down those with opposing views. 


“Ted Cruz’s Hearing on Anarchist Protest Violence Was a Total Farce“

“Cruz kept mentioning Democrats’ failure to condemn a murder that was actually carried out by the far right — and refused to be corrected.“
https://theintercept.com/2020/08/05/ted-cruz-hearing-antifa/


The NY Times seems to come to terms with the fact that Antifa exists and does damage.  


Some footage from the newly peaceful Portland.


Here they throw paint at a 77 year old woman and then harass her.  Seems like a lovely crew.


More lovely behavior.  Oh those crazy kids!


More footage of the police provoking these poor freedom fighters!


Seems like the Portland mayor may no longer be an ally

PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — The mayor of Portland, Oregon, a city wracked by nearly 70 consecutive nights of unrest, on Thursday angrily denounced those who attempted to set a police precinct on fire with officers stationed inside as props in President Donald Trump’s reelection campaign and said those individuals were not protesters, but criminals.. 

“You are not demonstrating, you are attempting to commit murder," Mayor Ted Wheeler said in hastily called news conference alongside Portland Police Chief Chuck Lovell.


More harassing people in their homes.


Chicago woman teaches us how the righteous shop.


So, They almost killed this guy in the video above.

First, a white guy was being robbed by Black Lives Matter rioters, one of which was Marquise Love who was dressed in a security uniform and pretending to work for Star Protection Agency. A transgender antifa person attempted to intervene and stop them, so they robbed the transgender person instead.

That’s when a truck driver who was parked nearby tried to also intervene. He was attacked, prompting a white woman to try to help him.She was punched and then tackled to the ground. The truck driver drove off when rioters tried to open his door but eventually crashed. The Marquise Love and other rioters pulled him from the vehicle and beat him nearly to death. Are you still with us? The guy who works as an armed security guard by day watched three people get assaulted and the one person he attacks is the driver of a truck who tried to stop the onslaught. Okay, time for the evidence.

More freedom fighting in Portland last night. 


Man takes his dog for a walk and is stabbed repeatedly. The person stabbing him was apparently yelling "Black Lives Matter!"  The story isn't getting much media buzz.  I wonder why.    cool cheese


terp said:

Man takes his dog for a walk and is stabbed repeatedly. The person stabbing him was apparently yelling "Black Lives Matter!"  The story isn't getting much media buzz.  I wonder why.   
cool cheese

 He was also arrested, and told the arresting officer “I stabbed him” and “I’m a psychopath”, so...


I was going to ask: What is the national angle for reporting that crime supposed to be?


You're right.  To get 24 hour coverage by the corporate media they would have to coordinate it totally differently.    They would need to switch roles and the attacker should have yelled "Make America Great Again!"  That would have been gold!


terp said:

You're right.  To get 24 hour coverage by the corporate media they would have to coordinate it totally differently.    They would need to switch roles and the attacker should have yelled "Make America Great Again!"  That would have been gold!

 May I ask, what was the source that brought that news item from Denver to your attention?


terp said:

You're right.  To get 24 hour coverage by the corporate media they would have to coordinate it totally differently.    They would need to switch roles and the attacker should have yelled "Make America Great Again!"  That would have been gold!

 IIRC, a few years ago, a crazy man shot up an army base yelling “Allahu Akbar” and the only person saying “yelling ‘Allahu Akbar’ doesn’t automatically make you Al Qaeda” was me. But if you wanted to bring this up to point out my personal hypocrisy, please feel free. As I’ve stated before my hypocrisy knows no bounds.


terp said:

You're right. To get 24 hour coverage by the corporate media they would have to coordinate it totally differently. They would need to switch roles and the attacker should have yelled "Make America Great Again!" That would have been gold!

It also would have helped the cause of national news attention if the crime had happened in New York, or were more rare, like pushing someone onto subway tracks.* News like that tends to gain greater traction than Mountain West stabbings by self-described psychopaths.

* Go ahead and argue that the MAGA angle added to the fuel of that one, and that it got more widespread attention than it deserved. It still doesn’t make me wonder why the Aurora crime isn’t getting buzz.


I'm just pointing out obvious media bias.  Maybe it would have been better if he drove a luxury car?


nohero said:

terp said:

You're right.  To get 24 hour coverage by the corporate media they would have to coordinate it totally differently.    They would need to switch roles and the attacker should have yelled "Make America Great Again!"  That would have been gold!

 May I ask, what was the source that brought that news item from Denver to your attention?

 I saw it on Twitter.  Everyone loves the ad hominem attack on sources, but it is clear to me that you cannot rely on the corporate media for a full picture of current events.  


ridski said:

terp said:

You're right.  To get 24 hour coverage by the corporate media they would have to coordinate it totally differently.    They would need to switch roles and the attacker should have yelled "Make America Great Again!"  That would have been gold!

 IIRC, a few years ago, a crazy man shot up an army base yelling “Allahu Akbar” and the only person saying “yelling ‘Allahu Akbar’ doesn’t automatically make you Al Qaeda” was me. But if you wanted to bring this up to point out my personal hypocrisy, please feel free. As I’ve stated before my hypocrisy knows no bounds.

 I don't believe I called you anything.  It seems that you enjoy casting aspersions in my direction lately but I have cast none here that I can tell.


DaveSchmidt said:

I was going to ask: What is the national angle for reporting that crime supposed to be?

Question answered. 


terp said:

nohero said:

terp said:

You're right.  To get 24 hour coverage by the corporate media they would have to coordinate it totally differently.    They would need to switch roles and the attacker should have yelled "Make America Great Again!"  That would have been gold!

 May I ask, what was the source that brought that news item from Denver to your attention?

 I saw it on Twitter.  Everyone loves the ad hominem attack on sources, but it is clear to me that you cannot rely on the corporate media for a full picture of current events.  

 I wasn't asking for the purpose of an ad hominem attack on sources, I was asking how this story came to your attention in the absence of the "corporate media".  What did the person on the Twitter say about it, and is that person local in Denver or learn about it in another part of the country?


terp said:

I'm just pointing out obvious media bias.  Maybe it would have been better if he drove a luxury car?

 There hasn't been any "pointing out obvious media bias".  There's been an anecdote about one (apparently not well-in-the-head) person.  To reach a conclusion about bias, we'd need to know how many similar people are reported on, vs. the number not reported on.


nohero said:

 I wasn't asking for the purpose of an ad hominem attack on sources, I was asking how this story came to your attention in the absence of the "corporate media".  What did the person on the Twitter say about it, and is that person local in Denver or learn about it in another part of the country?

it's actually a "mainstream media source."  A local CBS affiliate.  About as "mainstream" as it can be.  And nobody was questioning it as a legitimate source.  The question is whether or not the story really reflects on the BLM movement, or is it just a possibly mentally ill person on a rampage?


The poster know as Terp has gone from posting libertarian ideas to "trolling" MOL progressives.


ml1 said:

nohero said:

 I wasn't asking for the purpose of an ad hominem attack on sources, I was asking how this story came to your attention in the absence of the "corporate media".  What did the person on the Twitter say about it, and is that person local in Denver or learn about it in another part of the country?

it's actually a "mainstream media source."  A local CBS affiliate.  About as "mainstream" as it can be.  And nobody was questioning it as a legitimate source.  The question is whether or not the story really reflects on the BLM movement, or is it just a possibly mentally ill person on a rampage?

 I don't remember people here  being this thoughtful when the violence was coming from crazies perceived to be from the right.  IIRC, the clarion call was The right owns him


nohero said:

terp said:

I'm just pointing out obvious media bias.  Maybe it would have been better if he drove a luxury car?

 There hasn't been any "pointing out obvious media bias".  There's been an anecdote about one (apparently not well-in-the-head) person.  To reach a conclusion about bias, we'd need to know how many similar people are reported on, vs. the number not reported on.

 There is obvious media bias.  Why do they continue to call the protests peaceful when they clearly are not.  If there was a pro-Trump rally that was peaceful, but ended up with rioting, do you really think MSNBC or CNN would ensure everyone should think of them as peaceful by continually having that word on the screen?  Of course not.

There has been some focus on the RNC and the Sturgis bike rally and how they are going to spread Covid.  But you never hear mention of that regarding the BLM rallies.  

White on black crime and certainly police on black crime goes straight to the top of the news cycle.  Police on white crime doesn't get even a mention.  Black on white crime hardly gets a mention.  Black on black crime hardly gets a mention.

To think that there is no bias is frankly rather silly.


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