The Fight for Kherson

Zombies and vampires that’s what they are…


jamie said:

nan said:

Jamie - This is your weekly reminder that this is a proxy war between Russia and the US.

Also, Russia is winning and, thanks to inhuman US policy, the Ukrainians are being destroyed along with their country.  

And yes, the Russians did invade Ukraine after eight years of trying for a diplomatic solution--which was always rejected by the West.   

Remember this because it will be cut and pasted over to China-Taiwan.  

The neocons never sleep. 

It's only a proxy war via propaganda.  Which you use on an hourly basis here.

Seriously, you don't think this is a proxy war?    Seriously?    For real?   


jamie said:

nan said:

First of all, Wikipedia is a biased source.  

Second, it's "a term used by a number of scholars, politicians and publicists"   

That means it's made up like the School of the Putin Mindreaders.   

Naturally, " but it became more internationally known and more widely described after the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine."

Of course.

"On 23 April 2022, President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy stated that a new concept called "Ruscism" will be in history books:[35][36"

Totally unbiased view there.

They put the Z on vehicles so they could be identified in the fog of war. 

There's a lot more then vehicles they put a Z on - LOL.  Love how defend everything Russian - even the 2022 swastika. 

At least Wagner is getting more credit these days!  Do you at least acknowledge the neo-nazi leaning within their ranks?  And the Russia is indeed hiring them?

Zelensky begins with a 'Z" so you better start checking that out. 


nan said:

Seriously, you don't think this is a proxy war?    Seriously?    For real?   

oh god - we've been through this enough.

My take is that we didn't want this war - and if Russia did nothing - no one would be dying right now.

I look at what Vlad and company are actually saying.  This was is over bullying and genocide.

A genocide that paul contends didn't happen - and you do!

The operation is to denazify and demilitarize.

Denazification is a BS excuse to kill anyone and destroy Ukraine.

You can call anything a proxy war  You have a conspiracy on anything.  But at the end of the day - it's actually the ones bombing over a false premise who are actually at fault.  The same reasons you and paul have spoke out over every American military operation the past 20 years.  

But when Russia is at the helm - you're 100% behind their justifications and excuses.


nan said:

Zelensky begins with a 'Z" so you better start checking that out. 

What does that even mean?


nan - have you gotten a Z shirt yet?   


jamie said:

nan said:

Zelensky begins with a 'Z" so you better start checking that out. 

What does that even mean?

Oliver Stone can probably explain that.


jamie said:

nan - have you gotten a Z shirt yet?   

I did not even get a Maplewoodstock tee this year.  I'm trying to budget.  


nan said:

Zelensky begins with a 'Z" so you better start checking that out. 

The letter Z doesn’t even exist in Cyrillic.


ridski said:

nan said:

Zelensky begins with a 'Z" so you better start checking that out. 

The letter Z doesn’t even exist in Cyrillic.

So why did they bother banning it?  I guess his name should be Elensky then, as the Duran call him. 


nan said:

So why did they bother banning it?  I guess his name should be Elensky then, as the Duran call him. 

If his name is Zelensky, and The Duran call him something else, then The Duran are not journalists. 


nan said:

jamie said:

nan said:

Jamie - This is your weekly reminder that this is a proxy war between Russia and the US.

Also, Russia is winning and, thanks to inhuman US policy, the Ukrainians are being destroyed along with their country.  

And yes, the Russians did invade Ukraine after eight years of trying for a diplomatic solution--which was always rejected by the West.   

Remember this because it will be cut and pasted over to China-Taiwan.  

The neocons never sleep. 

It's only a proxy war via propaganda.  Which you use on an hourly basis here.

Seriously, you don't think this is a proxy war?    Seriously?    For real?   

Right.  I especially love the proxy wars that depend on the other guy doing something stupid.  There would be no war if Putin hadn't invaded Ukraine.  Putin made the miscalculation of his life when he ordered the invasion.  Now, Russia is screwed.  China's bitch.  Less and less commerce with the West.  Drying up arms sales because all the cool kids want NATO weapons.  The list goes on.

I suppose you hold B'rer Fox and B'rer Bear responsible for B'rer Rabbit's dustup with 'de Tar Baby.


ridski said:

nan said:

So why did they bother banning it?  I guess his name should be Elensky then, as the Duran call him. 

If his name is Zelensky, and The Duran call him something else, then The Duran are not journalists. 

That's a very narrow definition of journalism.   

To me, journalism is speaking truth to power, which the Duran do and the mainstream media do not.

One of them calls Zelensky "Elensky"  because he banned the letter 'Z."   That's a typical commentator thing. 

Can't imagine what you think of  Hunter S. Thompson.   He was way out there. 


nan said:

That's a very narrow definition of journalism.   

To me, journalism is speaking truth to power, which the Duran do and the mainstream media do not.

One of them calls Zelensky "Elensky"  because he banned the letter 'Z."   That's a typical commentator thing. 

Can't imagine what you think of  Hunter S. Thompson.   He was way out there. 

Then whichever Alex does it is **** stupid, because the letter Z doesn’t appear in Zelensky’s name. We spell it with a Z because that’s the sound the Cyrillic letter makes, and the Z that’s banned is a symbol of support for the Russian invasion. But we’ve had this conversation already, you’re just pretending to be ignorant for **** and giggles.


ridski said:

nan said:

That's a very narrow definition of journalism.   

To me, journalism is speaking truth to power, which the Duran do and the mainstream media do not.

One of them calls Zelensky "Elensky"  because he banned the letter 'Z."   That's a typical commentator thing. 

Can't imagine what you think of  Hunter S. Thompson.   He was way out there. 

Then whichever Alex does it is **** stupid, because the letter Z doesn’t appear in Zelensky’s name. We spell it with a Z because that’s the sound the Cyrillic letter makes, and the Z that’s banned is a symbol of support for the Russian invasion. But we’ve had this conversation already, you’re just pretending to be ignorant for **** and giggles.

If Z does not exist than he can't ban it.   That's the stupid part - that Zelensky banned the letter Z.   You can't ban a letter and there was some crazy things at the time where companies who featured "Z" had to change.  I don't remember now, but the whole thing was dumb. 


nan said:

If Z does not exist than he can't ban it.   That's the stupid part - that Zelensky banned the letter Z.   You can't ban a letter and there was some crazy things at the time where companies who featured "Z" had to change.  I don't remember now, but the whole thing was dumb. 

this post is what's dumb

In Ukraine, the "Z" exists as a symbol, but not as a letter.

sheesh


nan said:

If Z does not exist than he can't ban it.   That's the stupid part - that Zelensky banned the letter Z.   You can't ban a letter and there was some crazy things at the time where companies who featured "Z" had to change.  I don't remember now, but the whole thing was dumb. 

I can't tell if you genuinely miss the point, or are just trolling.

Two German states have outlawed public displays of the letter "Z," which has become synonymous with support for Russia's war in Ukraine.

Authorities in Bavaria and Lower Saxony said over the weekend that anyone who displays the symbol at public demonstrations or paints it on cars or buildings could face a fine or up to three years in jail, the English-language site The Local reports. And an Interior Ministry spokesperson told reporters on Monday that people throughout Germany who display the letter to endorse Russia's aggression could be liable to prosecution.

"The Russian war of aggression on the Ukraine is a criminal act, and whoever publicly approves of this war of aggression can also make himself liable to prosecution," the spokesperson said at a news conference, according to Reuters.

The letter "Z" — which is part of the Latin alphabet but not the Cyrillic one used in Russian — first appeared on tanks and other military vehicles massing near Russia's border with Ukraine, possibly as a way to distinguish them from Ukrainian forces.

Displaying a 'Z' is outlawed in German states : NPR


nohero said:

nan said:

If Z does not exist than he can't ban it.   That's the stupid part - that Zelensky banned the letter Z.   You can't ban a letter and there was some crazy things at the time where companies who featured "Z" had to change.  I don't remember now, but the whole thing was dumb. 

I can't tell if you genuinely miss the point, or are just trolling.

Two German states have outlawed public displays of the letter "Z," which has become synonymous with support for Russia's war in Ukraine.

Authorities in Bavaria and Lower Saxony said over the weekend that anyone who displays the symbol at public demonstrations or paints it on cars or buildings could face a fine or up to three years in jail, the English-language site The Local reports. And an Interior Ministry spokesperson told reporters on Monday that people throughout Germany who display the letter to endorse Russia's aggression could be liable to prosecution.

"The Russian war of aggression on the Ukraine is a criminal act, and whoever publicly approves of this war of aggression can also make himself liable to prosecution," the spokesperson said at a news conference, according to Reuters.

The letter "Z" — which is part of the Latin alphabet but not the Cyrillic one used in Russian — first appeared on tanks and other military vehicles massing near Russia's border with Ukraine, possibly as a way to distinguish them from Ukrainian forces.

Displaying a 'Z' is outlawed in German states : NPR

Also, dumb to ban "Z" in Germany.   Let's see how much support the Germans have for banning 'Z' when they are freezing this winter, thanks to the EU. 


Anyway, getting back to the Kherson counter-offensive.  What happened?  It seems to have gone bust.  Is it rescheduled? 


Even Amazon stopped selling tee shirts with the letter Z … it’s symbolic of the Russian special operation to denazify Ukraine. Unless it says Gen Z tee on the shirt.


nan said:

Anyway, getting back to the Kherson counter-offensive.  What happened?  It seems to have gone bust.  Is it rescheduled? 

kinda like how they predicted Putin would never invade Ukraine?   lol 


I also remember them predicting that if Russia did invade Ukraine this war would be over in a matter of weeks.


jamie said:

nan said:

Anyway, getting back to the Kherson counter-offensive.  What happened?  It seems to have gone bust.  Is it rescheduled? 

kinda like how they predicted Putin would never invade Ukraine?   lol 

Well so? Is it still on? 


nan said:

Also, dumb to ban "Z" in Germany.   Let's see how much support the Germans have for banning 'Z' when they are freezing this winter, thanks to the EU. 

Yes, they'll get their comeuppance for daring to be against Russia's schemes.  


nan said:

Well so? Is it still on? 

It's hard to say - Zelenasky never had to defend a country from Russia before.  Putin on the other hand has been around the block with this stuff - as you and friends always seem to gloat about his operation.  And that there was NO other option.

Zelensky is trying to save his country - Putin is trying to take his country and reunite it with Mother Russia.

Pick a side already.  I know you just want Vlad to have it - and the war will be over.


nan said:

Also, dumb to ban "Z" in Germany.   Let's see how much support the Germans have for banning 'Z' when they are freezing this winter, thanks to the EU. 

Well, I mean banning a letter is dumb, which is why context is important. Nazi Germany took a lot of previously innocuous symbols and changed their context. Take for example the triskele, which you’ll find all over ancient Celtic burial sites, and on artifacts, is now a white supremacist hate symbol.

https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/triskele

And Germany knows a few things about banning symbols. So I imagine no one is getting fined for including the z in spaetzle, and that your team of Alexes are little more than performative muckrakers in the same vein as the blowhards on Newsmax and OAN who like to call Hillary Clinton “Shrillary” and MSNBC “MSLSD” and democrats “Demon Rats” because they think it’s the height of sophisticated political humor. But in reality, they’re just boors.


nan said:

Also, dumb to ban "Z" in Germany.   Let's see how much support the Germans have for banning 'Z' when they are freezing this winter, thanks to the EU. 

When they are freezing this winter because they are principled enough to stand up to Russia's brutal invasion of Ukraine, the likes of which we have not seen since Barbarossa.



drummerboy said:

MSLSD?

it was mark levin who started saying that on his afternoon radio talk show. He’s the one who also used “shrillary” and other derogatory names for democrats since before Obama was elected. I find it disgusting that he attacked trumpenstein daily before he won the nomination …then became a MAGAT once trumpenstein became president.

Mark Levin is their guru, a very dangerous guru.


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