NJ MVC The return of waiting lines.
Freeway said:
ctrzaska said:
Or hang them in your garage like I do.
This. My father returned a set of plates in the 80s at springfield and they were re-issued to a guy with a '69 camaro who liked to park illegally all over hudson county. Lots of back and forth to get the tickets dropped and info corrected. I usually fold 1 plate into 3rds then unfold it before returning it and keep the other plate.
It sounds like they weren't reissued, but rather given to the guy, probably by a friend who worked at the DMV. To be properly reissued the info in the computer would have been updated to reflect the new owner/car.
Just an FYI regarding license plates.
I have a vintage car that I had taken off the road and parked in my garage. Dropped the insurance and did not renew the registration, kept the plates.
A few years later I went in to renew the registration and was forced to pay for all the prior years registrations because I never turned in the plates!
Kurt
spontaneous said:
Freeway said:
ctrzaska said:
Or hang them in your garage like I do.
This. My father returned a set of plates in the 80s at springfield and they were re-issued to a guy with a '69 camaro who liked to park illegally all over hudson county. Lots of back and forth to get the tickets dropped and info corrected. I usually fold 1 plate into 3rds then unfold it before returning it and keep the other plate.
It sounds like they weren't reissued, but rather given to the guy, probably by a friend who worked at the DMV. To be properly reissued the info in the computer would have been updated to reflect the new owner/car.
Ok they left the dmv in some way shape or form and ended up on a 69 camaro. When the cop ran the plates he got all of my dad's info and the plates came back to a 69 camaro. My father never owned a camaro ever and his plates were on a leased 1986 buick. So somehow the plates ended up leaving the dmv with all of the registration info aside from the make and model of the car reflecting my father's info. Point of my story was to bend , beat up , or disfigure the one plate you do return so that the the plates dont end up on another car either through stupidity or for more sinister reasons.
The NJ DMV is a crapshoot at this time. For some reason they are super strict with everything to the point of being totally unreasonable. My better half has a somewhat common name. He had a NY DL and wanted to finally get a NJ. Went to DMV in Springfield and was told that there was a warrant out for his arrest. After arguing with the lady that he never had a NJ DL and that must be someone else, he was allowed to go home but no DL was issued. His was also told that his birth certificate, the original document which had his name written with a typewriter, was fake because the letters were not properly lined up although he had all other 5+ points with his name. He had to request a new birth certificate and go back to the DMV, to be then told that he had to go to Trenton to clear up the situation with the individual with a similar name and birth month before they could issue him a DL. He went to Trenton, to be told that he had to get a court appearance in Camdem and have proof that he was not the guy in question. After getting a court appt, which was no easy feat since nobody ever answers the phone, he had to bring down his military records showing that he was in NAVY boot camp in Rhode Island when the ticket in question was issued. Finally got a letter explaining that he was not the individual in question with the outstanding warrant. So went to DMV and got issued a DL, but instead of creating a new record, they decided to re-use the existing record of the individual with the warrant. Of course they issued an incorrect DL since the birth date was wrong. Went back to get it corrected, and since there is a missing R in the new birth certificate he got they issued a new DL with the incorrect name on the Birth Certificate. Now he can't get the car registered because the name on the title does not match the DL. He can't even get a fishing license in NJ! So now waiting on a name change for his Louisiana Birth Certificate, to then return to DMV to get a new DL with the correct name, and eventually register his car. So a simple NJ DL is taking well over 6 months since every trip is typically a day off work. So feel blessed for going in and out in a few hours!
pmartinezv, I wonder if they're cracking down on ID as a form of voter suppression. I can see Christie requiring the DMV to do this so people have a harder time registering to vote, which would benefit the Republicans.
pmartinezv said:
The NJ DMV is a crapshoot at this time. For some reason they are super strict with everything to the point of being totally unreasonable. My better half has a somewhat common name. He had a NY DL and wanted to finally get a NJ. Went to DMV in Springfield and was told that there was a warrant out for his arrest. After arguing with the lady that he never had a NJ DL and that must be someone else, he was allowed to go home but no DL was issued. His was also told that his birth certificate, the original document which had his name written with a typewriter, was fake because the letters were not properly lined up although he had all other 5+ points with his name. He had to request a new birth certificate and go back to the DMV, to be then told that he had to go to Trenton to clear up the situation with the individual with a similar name and birth month before they could issue him a DL. He went to Trenton, to be told that he had to get a court appearance in Camdem and have proof that he was not the guy in question. After getting a court appt, which was no easy feat since nobody ever answers the phone, he had to bring down his military records showing that he was in NAVY boot camp in Rhode Island when the ticket in question was issued. Finally got a letter explaining that he was not the individual in question with the outstanding warrant. So went to DMV and got issued a DL, but instead of creating a new record, they decided to re-use the existing record of the individual with the warrant. Of course they issued an incorrect DL since the birth date was wrong. Went back to get it corrected, and since there is a missing R in the new birth certificate he got they issued a new DL with the incorrect name on the Birth Certificate. Now he can't get the car registered because the name on the title does not match the DL. He can't even get a fishing license in NJ! So now waiting on a name change for his Louisiana Birth Certificate, to then return to DMV to get a new DL with the correct name, and eventually register his car. So a simple NJ DL is taking well over 6 months since every trip is typically a day off work. So feel blessed for going in and out in a few hours!
I have nothing to offer other than my sympathy. You and your better half have truly endured a bureaucratic hellhole.
spontaneous said:
When we went to one in or near Manahawkin to register a car it was in and out in 10 minutes. Of course, I wouldn't go all the way down there just to go to the DMV.
This is where I always go. I plan it around a trip to LBI.
annemarie said:
spontaneous said:
When we went to one in or near Manahawkin to register a car it was in and out in 10 minutes. Of course, I wouldn't go all the way down there just to go to the DMV.
This is where I always go. I plan it around a trip to LBI.
The one in the strip mall? If so there is a really good coffee shop across the sleep.
Pmartinezv, that is almost exactly the hell we went through when we needed to get my husband his CT drivers license. His birth certificate had a typo that transposed two letters of his first name, and DMV would not issue the license because it did not match his other IDs. We ended up having to go to probate court here in CT to make a formal name change to the name he has always used, just because of a stupid typo in NYC 56 years ago. Insane. And, at some points, terrifying. I really wondered if he would ever be able to get through the bureaucratic nightmare.
I believe it all has to do with Homeland Security and the Patriot Act. We are refinancing our house, and one of the documents we had to sign was an acknowledgment of all the documentation to prove our identification that would be required because of the Patriot Act. Makes my blood boil.
My husband never had any trouble with his SS card (it had his middle name, not his first name) but with heightened security I knew it would just be a matter of time. I made him go to SS and have it fixed. The man at the office said it actually happened a lot back in the day, where people would put nick names or shortened names on the applications.
krugle said:
pmartinezv, Your story leaves me speechless.
Me too. I'm not sure I would have made it through that ordeal without punching someone (which, I should note, I have never done in my life).
I recently got my D.L. renewed at the Springfield agency. I didn't have a problem at all, but I had already done a drive-by the week before and, as it was later in the morning, the line was long. I decided to return before 8:00 a.m. After getting ushered to the area where the driver's licenses are processed, you had to wait to get your picture taken. There was an elderly woman with a cane who struggled. In the picture taking area, the chairs are in a semi-circle. The next person up moves to the chair vacated by the one before him/her and so on. It's like musical chairs. The only thing is that this is tough for the elderly or others with physical issues such as stiff hip or hamstring muscles. The people graciously allowed the woman to remain in her chair. They moved around her and let her know when her time came.
I used to get my car inspected at a small station in Montclair, which was closed. I also have used an agency that was located in Irvington. Then that was closed.
If you come to Springfield bring cash/coin/credit for the parking lot. It's $1.00 per hour.
Off topic: In the time I had left for the parking -- I paid for three hours -- I walked around Springfield. I was intrigued by the memorials to the "The Battle of Springfield" of the Revolutionary War. It's sometimes referred to as the "forgotten victory." New Jersey is filled with benchmarks of the R.W.
http://www.revolutionarywarnewjersey.com/new_jersey_revolutionary_war_sites/towns/springfield_nj_revolutionary_war_sites.htm
http://www.revolutionarywarnewjersey.com/new_jersey_revolutionary_war_sites/towns/union_nj_revolutionary_war_sites.htm
mjh said:
krugle said:
pmartinezv, Your story leaves me speechless.
Me too. I'm not sure I would have made it through that ordeal without punching someone (which, I should note, I have never done in my life).
Trust me. Everytime he came home without his license and told me what happened, I looked at him in disbelief that he kept his composure through each incident. I would have been arrested by the 3rd or 4th instance...
pmartinezv said:
mjh said:
krugle said:
pmartinezv, Your story leaves me speechless.
Me too. I'm not sure I would have made it through that ordeal without punching someone (which, I should note, I have never done in my life).
Trust me. Everytime he came home without his license and told me what happened, I looked at him in disbelief that he kept his composure through each incident. I would have been arrested by the 3rd or 4th instance...
i had a situation similar to your husband's and, when i asked to clerk to please use some common sense, i was asked to leave the premises. only time i've ever been thrown out of somewhere!
i ended up having to go back to the judge who issued my divorce decree and have him add an amendment stating that i would be reverting to my maiden name, because my new marriage license application only asked for my maiden name, not my previously married one. sigh.
Any more recent reports, even drive-by's? I've got to get it done this month.
I think I hate the parking payment kiosk more than the line inside. There ought to be a better way!
sac said:
I think I hate the parking payment kiosk more than the line inside. There ought to be a better way!
Yes, I hate it too. Last time I was there I did street right on Mountain Ave. for that very reason. Do they still allow parking there on Mountain?
Went to Springfield office,yesterday. Number 5 on the line at 7:20. Even with document problems aut by 8:40.
Luck of the draw?
Update: 1:23 end to end for license renewal at Springfield today. Got there around 9:45 am, waited roughly 45 minutes outside, then 15-20 inside (sitting) for ID check, then maybe 10 more for the photo session. Horrible compared to how it used to be, but still not that bad, and the workers are still really nice.
It's pretty sad that we are now conditioned to think that over an hour is good.
Just my luck I had to renew my license before the end of the month and I'm waiting for spinal fusion surgery due to multiple herniated disc's. Drove by Springfield yesterday and saw a line of about 30 people and Kept going. Drove up to Randolph today and it was nothing but lines...someone said there was a 2 1/2 hour wait in Wayne and everybody was leaving there and going to Randolph. And it up taking me an hour and a half with no chairs, no consideration on any part by any DMV workers, and on top of that they got my signature wrong and refused to change my license because their machine was not working properly.... I believe NBC has been doing a series on how awful the New Jersey DMV is
Try showing up with crutches or a walker. The time I was there, the staff was pretty considerate of a little old lady who was clearly having trouble walking. (Meaning they let her skip the outside line and put her in a chair in the waiting area.)
there was a woman on oxygen, and she came with someone who waited on line for her until it was time for the picture... next time.
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This. My father returned a set of plates in the 80s at springfield and they were re-issued to a guy with a '69 camaro who liked to park illegally all over hudson county. Lots of back and forth to get the tickets dropped and info corrected. I usually fold 1 plate into 3rds then unfold it before returning it and keep the other plate.