Hospitals, covid vax and your health.

ConcernedHighTaxPayer said:

Well, what's the point then? Do we only do business if everyone does what you want them to do?

If you walked on a battlefield every day and you had to take constant gunfire, doing business with everyone out there isn’t going to help. Just so the analogy is clear, you get to choose to do business only with the ones who do what you want and stop shooting.


DaveSchmidt said:

ConcernedHighTaxPayer said:

 If you walked on a battlefield every day and you had to take constant gunfire, wearing a helmet isn't going to help. You are eventually going to get shot. Just so you guys understand the analogy here, the helmet is the vaccine.

I think what happens is the vaccines turn the gunfire into BBs. 

Absolutely.

Yours is the best analogy I have ever come across. 

bb's are much less harmful but occasionally there can be that unlikely breakthrough of a bb hitting you in the eye.

I'll take my chances with a bb anytime over a bullet.


Considering how the virus actually works, a better analogy may be fields strewn with a plant like Arctium lappa (greater burdock), only those burrs have a toxic oil on them. If left too long on the skin, the oil seeps into your blood stream and does damage anywhere from mild irritation to fatal poisoning. Had to look up the name, btw. You can avoid getting them on you by just avoiding those fields or wearing full body Tyvek suits or something like painters sometimes wear if/when you go into them. You have to take odd those suits when you're done.

The vaccines do not keep the burrs from grabbing your skin and clothing. Getting the vaccines is like taking a class that shows you how to safely remove them and when you go home, they give you a little swag bag with a supply of antitoxin to use if you do get them on you.

Too bad you can't let your buddies use the antitoxin because each batch is just for the person it was made for. They didn't go to a class so they don't have any for themselves.

We used to think you could give them some of yours but it hasn't worked as well as we hoped.

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-study-shows-no-significant-benefit-convalescent-plasma-covid-19-outpatients-early-symptoms#:~:text=The%20final%20results%20of%20the,first%20week%20of%20their%20symptoms.


PeterWick said:

Considering how the virus actually works, a better analogy may be fields strewn with a plant like Arctium lappa (greater burdock), only those burrs have a toxic oil on them.

Well, sure, but what did you do with the battlefield?  cheese


DaveSchmidt said:

Well, sure, but what did you do with the battlefield? 
cheese

 Battlefield experienced a retreat. Psychological warfare by the opponent was too difficult to overcome.


The battlefield analogy for Tax guy's better-to-get-sick-to-secure-natural immunity position is to get wounded on purpose so you get sent home from the trenches.  Great if you don't die, lose a limb or an eye or suffer some other permanent damage.  


RTrent said:

Absolutely.

Yours is the best analogy I have ever come across. 

bb's are much less harmful but occasionally there can be that unlikely breakthrough of a bb hitting you in the eye.

I'll take my chances with a bb anytime over a bullet.

 Only problem in this case is…upsettaxpayingtroll has an arsenal of BS…anyone can deal with BBS…


Just came across this:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/life-saver-boosters-cut-elderlys-risk-of-covid-death-to-50th-of-unvaxxed-rate/

After boosters, elderly Israelis who are fully inoculated have just one fiftieth of the chance of COVID death compared to unvaccinated people in the same age bracket.
According to Health Ministry data for the last seven days of September, there were 6.43 daily deaths per 100,000 Israelis aged 60-plus. For older people who were vaccinated three times, the average was 0.13.
The statistics indicate that the shift from a two-shot to a three-shot regime has saved many lives. When elderly Israelis who are vaccinated twice get their third shot, they eliminate eleven-twelfths of the risk of death.

Sadly, CHTP is apparently leaving for a place with higher taxes and stricter covid restrictions, so this particular barrel of fish is about to be drained. Too bad, because I was hoping to learn how restaurants fit into this battlefield analogy -- if covid is the bullets, and vaccines are a helmet, but it's not possible to get covid from dining out, then restaurants are... magic force fields? It's not really clear. Alas, I suppose now we'll never know.


What's the over/under on when CHTP posts again?


yahooyahoo said:

What's the over/under on when CHTP posts again?

 Under this name or a different one?


We may not be enough of a FOMO-type crowd for CHTP. Other social media venues are probably better for feeling like people are jealous of someone banging out deals along with banging chicks in Rome.


I’ll give his irreverence this: The work showed.


sprout said:

We may not be enough of a FOMO-type crowd for CHTP. Other social media venues are probably better for feeling like people are jealous of someone banging out deals along with banging chicks in Rome.

 Well, I did tell him to stick his hand in the mouth of truth. Who knows, he may come back disarmingly changed.


Hospitals have employees who aren’t healthcare workers and it is this group who have the lowest level of vaccine compliance, although it’s still very high compared to the general population.   Nurses and doctors are generally 90+% vaccinated.  Why there are any who are not is still troubling. 


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