Effects of new lead regulations on MAPSO?

Jul 12, 2023 at 12:51pm

I am thinking this is going to have a pretty major effect on MAPSO.  We greatly reduced the amount of free lead in our 1926 house by replacing the original windows with some nice Pellas but there was definitely still lead exposure anywhere furniture rubbed at the walls or where something accidentally took a nick out of the paint.  To remove that sort of source would have cost at least 15k (as a hypervigilant new father I got an estimate in 2009).

WP: Millions of homes, schools may have to eliminate lead dust under EPA plan

There is lead in the air.  Stop breathing.


The regulations are not in effect yet.  It looks like it could be costly as proposed, but I would expect the final rule to be modified before it's finalized.

"The EPA’s proposal will go through a 60-day comment period, and then a further analysis that typically takes months before the agency issues a final rule. An agency spokesman said officials expect that will happen sometime next year."


Here is the latest NJ law regarding lead paint. It affects rental properties that are pre-1978.

https://poanj.org/lead-safe-certification-nj-newest-lead-paint-law/#:~:text=NJ's%20NEWEST%20lead%2Dbased%20paint,nonexempt%20rental%20property%20at%20turnover.

NJ’s NEWEST lead-based paint law goes into effect in July of 2022 and directly targets ALL pre-1978 rental properties. This new law is being referred to as, New Jersey’s Lead Safe Certification and will require lead-paint inspections, (Visual &/or Dust wipes) on all nonexempt rental property at turnover. Additionally, every three years going forward, it will increase lead-based paint hazard education to state residents and will fund New Jerseys Lead Hazard Control Assistance Act.


Will the home be foreclosed if it’s a senior on fixed income who is unable to afford the remediation or is the state assisting in the cleanup costs? 


the_18th_letter said:

Will the home be foreclosed if it’s a senior on fixed income who is unable to afford the remediation or is the state assisting in the cleanup costs? 

More information please.  If you are referring to NJAW's replacement of lead service lines, there is no charge to the homeowner, even for the homeowner's portion of the line to be replaced.  If this is something else, the impacted senior or their representative could explore the following resources:

The SOMA Two Towns For All Ages Senior Resource Guide contains over 70 pages of resources for older adults and should produce some leads.  A digital copy should be available on the SOMA Two Towns For All Ages website and the Maplewood Recreation Department's weekly email blast contains a link to the document.  I have seen copies at the Maplewood Senior Center and they should be available at the Baird.

Maplewood and South Orange each have a designated elected official (Township Committee or Town Council) who serves as liaison to their town's senior advisory committee.  Contacting that liaison or a member of their town's senior advisory committee for help is another possibility. (If the senior is a Maplewood resident, they or you on their behalf can reach out to me since I am a member of the Maplewood committee.)

Maplewood and South Orange have a shared contract with Jewish Family Services to provide casework services to older adults in both towns.  At present, there is no dedicated caseworker assigned but there is a general number one can call for needed services.

The SOMA Two Towns For All Ages Coordinator, based in South Orange, may be able to help. 

Contacting their town's Code Enforcement office could clarify what regulations and support services exist.

Hope this helps.


It’s not about lead pipes. It’s about lead paint in rental properties.

If I remember correctly, it also stated that contractors would have to take a course on lead paint removal. I remember something about windows replaced, if there is lead paint on the window sills. I actually had forgotten about this issue. But it’s only for rental properties.


Jaytee said:

It’s not about lead pipes. It’s about lead paint in rental properties.

If I remember correctly, it also stated that contractors would have to take a course on lead paint removal. I remember something about windows replaced, if there is lead paint on the window sills. I actually had forgotten about this issue. But it’s only for rental properties.

Then it does not apply to the problem expressed by the OP unless the older adult in question has one or more rental units in their house. There is still a question of how the term "rental" is interpreted.  If the person the OP is referring to is renting a room in their house in compliance with a local ordinance in both Maplewood and South Orange, would this law apply?  What about if the person the OP is referring to entered into a home sharing agreement, which is not considered a rental?  This is why I asked for additional information.


If person OP is writing about is still concerned, they can contact their local Health Department, which may be able to do simple testing to see if there is lead paint on any of the walls (should only be a problem if paint is peeling) and their local Code Enforcement office which can given them information on a county program that can help with the cost of remediation if it turns out they have a lead paint problem that needs to be addressed.


I might be able to explain a tiny bit of the confusion, or at least what lead to my initial panic. I own and live in a condominium, and got the lead letter from my town. It seems they sent it to every home that has a second number or unit number in its address, with the assumption that it must be a apartment/rental property. Just FYI, this part is total hearsay, but contractor friends tell me they do not think the state and the municipalities are going to come with a way to enforce this. 


Heynj said:

I might be able to explain a tiny bit of the confusion, or at least what lead to my initial panic. I own and live in a condominium, and got the lead letter from my town. It seems they sent it to every home that has a second number or unit number in its address, with the assumption that it must be a apartment/rental property. Just FYI, this part is total hearsay, but contractor friends tell me they do not think the state and the municipalities are going to come with a way to enforce this. 

When was your condo built?


I own a rental in Philly and I have renovated my own homes here and in Newark, the youngest of which is from 1904.  I read the lead safe rules and followed them.  No one is going to foreclose on anything over lead paint.  Banks foreclose when you don't pay the mortgage, that's it.  As a landlord I was required to get lead inspections by registered inspectors before I could get a C of O in Philly.


joan_crystal said:

Then it does not apply to the problem expressed by the OP unless the older adult in question has one or more rental units in their house. There is still a question of how the term "rental" is interpreted.  If the person the OP is referring to is renting a room in their house in compliance with a local ordinance in both Maplewood and South Orange, would this law apply?  What about if the person the OP is referring to entered into a home sharing agreement, which is not considered a rental?  This is why I asked for additional information.

I’m speaking of a senior that has a 3 unit rental property that has to be inspected for lead. Medical bills and bad luck have pretty much wiped out the nest egg for emergencies. 


DanDietrich said:

I own a rental in Philly and I have renovated my own homes here and in Newark, the youngest of which is from 1904.  I read the lead safe rules and followed them.  No one is going to foreclose on anything over lead paint.  Banks foreclose when you don't pay the mortgage, that's it.  As a landlord I was required to get lead inspections by registered inspectors before I could get a C of O in Philly.

wasn’t sure if some type of lien would be placed on the house that vultures could scoop up. Banks may be the only people who foreclose, but you can lose your property in a number of other ways. 


the_18th_letter said:

wasn’t sure if some type of lien would be placed on the house that vultures could scoop up. Banks may be the only people who foreclose, but you can lose your property in a number of other ways. 

If the possibility of lien exists, it might be wise to consult a lawyer who specializes in this area.   


GoSlugs said:

When was your condo built?

1954


joan_crystal said:

If the possibility of lien exists, it might be wise to consult a lawyer who specializes in this area.   

That’s what I’m trying to find out, if there’s possibility. The information provided by the town just indicates a deadline and lists the company the homeowner will have to pay for an inspection. It doesn’t seem as if you can shop around for a cheaper company to test. 


the_18th_letter said:

That’s what I’m trying to find out, if there’s possibility. The information provided by the town just indicates a deadline and lists the company the homeowner will have to pay for an inspection. It doesn’t seem as if you can shop around for a cheaper company to test. 

Has anyone reached out to the building department for an answer to that question?


In Philly I had to use a company from a list they provided.  It's the only way the city has to know that the companies and test results are legit


A list would have been nice. The price may be the price, but there’s something comforting about having a choice and competitive pricing research. 


There were no price differences.  Just company choices.


DanDietrich said:

There were no price differences.  Just company choices.

Sounds kinda like market manipulation but it’s possible that each company actually charged the same price. It would still offer me some control on who I chose for the service. I’m much better when you offer me option. It would be a little easier on my mental health if I was go along with whatever is presented type person lol.



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