Comey.
BCC said:
As the one anti Hillary individual, for the record, I voted the Demo down ballot and did not vote for President because I didn't think any of them deserved it.
This is supposed to be about Comey, and HRC was added, yet there is not a single mention of the DOJ IG and his investigation and the fact he has recommended criminal prosecution of MCCrae. MCCrae and Comey are now pointing fingers at each other as liars. Hillarys conduct could result in felony charges and Comey as well.
Remains to be seen what Horowitz comes up with in the near future.
No doubt I will have overwhelming agreement with what I just wrote.
I think we can all agree that you don't know who was recommended for charges by the DoJ.
GL2 said:
"Democrat" party is a learned term. It's unnatural in the context of U.S. history and semantics in general.
Ask any member of the Republic party. Isn't that odd-sounding?
A fly in that comparison being that individual members of the GOP don’t call themselves Republics.
dave23 said:
BCC said:I think we can all agree that you don't know who was recommended for charges by the DoJ.
As the one anti Hillary individual, for the record, I voted the Demo down ballot and did not vote for President because I didn't think any of them deserved it.
This is supposed to be about Comey, and HRC was added, yet there is not a single mention of the DOJ IG and his investigation and the fact he has recommended criminal prosecution of MCCrae. MCCrae and Comey are now pointing fingers at each other as liars. Hillarys conduct could result in felony charges and Comey as well.
Remains to be seen what Horowitz comes up with in the near future.
No doubt I will have overwhelming agreement with what I just wrote.
My error, since corrected
BCC said:As the one anti Hillary individual, for the record, I voted the Demo down ballot and did not vote for President because I didn't think any of them deserved it.
Fair enough, you were neutral on whether one or the other would be President. Some of us were more concerned about the direction Trump would take (which has been proven out).
BCC said:
dave23 said:My error, since corrected
BCC said:I think we can all agree that you don't know who was recommended for charges by the DoJ.
As the one anti Hillary individual, for the record, I voted the Demo down ballot and did not vote for President because I didn't think any of them deserved it.
This is supposed to be about Comey, and HRC was added, yet there is not a single mention of the DOJ IG and his investigation and the fact he has recommended criminal prosecution of MCCrae. MCCrae and Comey are now pointing fingers at each other as liars. Hillarys conduct could result in felony charges and Comey as well.
Remains to be seen what Horowitz comes up with in the near future.
No doubt I will have overwhelming agreement with what I just wrote.
No problem. I'm sure you understand the rest of it.
BCC said:...
Hillarys conduct could result in felony charges and Comey as well.
Remains to be seen what Horowitz comes up with in the near future.
No doubt I will have overwhelming agreement with what I just wrote.
That's some hilarious sh!t you wrote right there.
BCC said:
MCCabe and Comey are now pointing fingers at each other as liars. Hillarys conduct could result in felony charges and Comey as well.
Saw an interview with Comey last night. He was defending McCabe completely.
Are you saying that Comey may have committed a felony?
Klinker said: GL2 said: "Democrat" party is a learned term. It's unnatural in the context of U.S. history and semantics in general. Ask any member of the Republic party. Isn't that odd-sounding? Just spit it out. What are you trying to say here? That I am secretly a Republican? That this has all been a decade long effort to troll you? Either that is what you are saying or you should just stop posting this garbage because your attempts to cast some sort of conservative taint on me seem (to me at least) to be a pretty pathetic (and inaccurate) ad hominem attack.
GL2 said:
LOST said:If you're conversing with someone who says "democrat" party, there's really no need to go on.
Do you mean the "Democratic" Party?
I think it was Emerson who said something like "I know your sect; I anticipate your argument."
I already spat out what I wanted to say about the term quite a ways back. Just trying to hold you to account for its use. Not a big mystery.
I remembered having the same conversation with Mr. Klinker four years ago.
LOST said:
BCC said:Saw an interview with Comey last night. He was defending McCabe completely.
MCCabe and Comey are now pointing fingers at each other as liars. Hillarys conduct could result in felony charges and Comey as well.
Are you saying that Comey may have committed a felony?
Yes.
Perhaps you missed the latest news. Comey is now under investigation by the IG. His leaked memos are said to contain classified info. In addition I believe they are also looking into his handling of the Clinton investigation.
At the same time, good news from NOKO. Things are moving in the right direction.
Remains to be seen where it ends up.
BCC said:
At the same time, good news from NOKO. Things are moving in the right direction.
Remains to be seen where it ends up.
All progress is good. We're where we were eight years ago, but it is to be hoped that things are going in the right direction.
https://thecaucus.blogs.nytime...
John McCain and Barack Obama both called North Korea’s declaration of its nuclear program a “step forward” Thursday, but the senators also warned that despite the Bush administration’s preparations to remove the country from the State Department’s list of state sponsors of terrorism, the tense relations with its reclusive dictatorship are far from resolved.
In statements, the presumptive presidential nominees cited unanswered questions about the North’s uranium enrichment capabilities and its dealings with other countries like Syria. The Bush administration has asserted that North Korea has secretly enriched uranium and aided Syria in building a plutonium reactor.
Mr. Obama said that Congress needed to review North Korea’s declaration over the next 45 days before addressing the proposal to remove the country from the terrorism list.
Mr. McCain has generally toed the Bush administration line on North Korea, and he urged the president last month to demand complete disarmament. He has maintained that any agreement be verifiable, and the White House said Thursday that American officials would work to authenticate the North’s declaration over the next 45 days.
“If we are unable to fully verify the declaration submitted today and if I am not satisfied with the verification mechanisms developed, I would not support the easing of sanctions on North Korea,” Mr. McCain said.
Mr. McCain has previously criticized Mr. Obama for saying that he would be willing to meet with leaders of enemy states, including North Korea. Mr. McCain did not broach that subject in his statement Thursday, and both candidates called for continued aggressive diplomacy.
The Bush administration tacked on its position toward the North in early 2007, when Mr. Bush allowed new negotiations with Pyongyang after a long standoff. Mr. Obama took a swipe at the former policy Thursday, saying the North’s nuclear weapons programs “only expanded while we refused to talk.”
LOST said:
BCC said:Saw an interview with Comey last night. He was defending McCabe completely.
MCCabe and Comey are now pointing fingers at each other as liars. Hillarys conduct could result in felony charges and Comey as well.
Are you saying that Comey may have committed a felony?
MCCabe's defense is that what he did was OKed by Comey. Comey under oath has denied it.
Interesting to find out what Horowitz came up with.
GL2 said:
I already spat out what I wanted to say about the term quite a ways back. Just trying to hold you to account for its use. Not a big mystery.
No, please. I really want to understand what you think this means about me. Do explain. Because I am a little bit unclear about the intent of your post.
BCC said:
LOST said:MCCabe's defense is that what he did was OKed by Comey. Comey under oath has denied it.
BCC said:Saw an interview with Comey last night. He was defending McCabe completely.
MCCabe and Comey are now pointing fingers at each other as liars. Hillarys conduct could result in felony charges and Comey as well.
Are you saying that Comey may have committed a felony?
Interesting to find out what Horowitz came up with.
I did not know that that was McCabe's defense. Can you cite a source?
I just think it's wonderfully ironic that Comey is getting called on releasing info that was classified after the fact.
Hillary must be having a big yuck about that one.
drummerboy said:
I just think it's wonderfully ironic that Comey is getting called on releasing info that was classified after the fact.
Hillary must be having a big yuck about that one.
'Following his termination late Friday night, former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe declared that he was “singled out” after “unrelenting” attacks by President Trump and critics. McCabe’s objections are less than credible, given the virtually unprecedented recommendation of career officials to fire the one-time acting FBI director.
However, McCabe may have rectified his “singled out” status with his long statement criticizing his termination: In the middle of it is a line that could be viewed as incriminating fired FBI director James Comey, not just in leaking sensitive information but also in lying to Congress.'
After all this time you really don't know how the classification system works, do you.
I doubt HRC is having a big yock about anything.
That's an interesting article by Turley but it's over a month old and in the meantime Comey has published his book and is all over TV selling it and selling his story. He does not appear to be worried about being criminally charged and apparently he has not even hired a lawyer to prepare for that possibility.
On the other hand Mr. Cohen, a lawyer and advisor of Trump has had his office and residence subject to a search warrant and seems to be under imminent threat of indictment.
As to what Hillary Clinton may make of this whole thing, it's just speculation.
nohero said:
I remembered having the same conversation with Mr. Klinker four years ago.
https://maplewood.worldwebs.co...
GL2 said:
nohero said:
I remembered having the same conversation with Mr. Klinker four years ago.
https://maplewood.worldwebs.co...
Again, your point? You just keep on posting this crap. Obviously you have a point that you are trying to make. Stop being so shy and just spit it out. I am dying to here your profound revelations.
Or are you just trolling me?
Seriously, you and I tend to agree on most issues and I have generally thought you to be a voice of reason on these boards but I have lost a lot of respect for you over the last couple of days.
You know, upon reflection, if it was Manchin vs Trump I would vote for the Green Party candidate for the following reasons.
1) A Manchin topped ticket would be dead on arrival. Minority turnout would be 0 and a vote for Manchin would be a vote wasted.
2) In any national election, if NJ is a battleground state, the Dem candidate is doomed to defeat so, again, my vote would be wasted.
3) Any Dem party that would nominate Manchin would be so out of line with the will of progressive voters that its only hope would be to receive such a painful kick in the pants that it make a 180 degree change in its direction.
When I think about the 2016 election in this light and the fact that HRC won NJ by 15% I really do wonder whether holding my noise and voting for HRc was the right thing to do. The fact that a lot of the posters here seem to think the path forward will include another conservative nominee in 2020 really does make me wonder whether the Democratic Party learned any lessons from 2016.
LOST said:
That's an interesting article by Turley but it's over a month old and in the meantime Comey has published his book and is all over TV selling it and selling his story. He does not appear to be worried about being criminally charged and apparently he has not even hired a lawyer to prepare for that possibility.
On the other hand Mr. Cohen, a lawyer and advisor of Trump has had his office and residence subject to a search warrant and seems to be under imminent threat of indictment.
As to what Hillary Clinton may make of this whole thing, it's just speculation.
Turley is someone I respect (although there are fewer and fewer people I can say that about),and I have no idea what you are referring to.
The entire handling of the Hillary investigation is something both Hillary and Comey, who is now being investigated by the IG, have a good deal to worry about.
Bringing up Cohen is simply one of those 'he's one too, so there'.
BCC said:
drummerboy said:
I just think it's wonderfully ironic that Comey is getting called on releasing info that was classified after the fact.
Hillary must be having a big yuck about that one.
'Following his termination late Friday night, former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe declared that he was “singled out” after “unrelenting” attacks by President Trump and critics. McCabe’s objections are less than credible, given the virtually unprecedented recommendation of career officials to fire the one-time acting FBI director.
However, McCabe may have rectified his “singled out” status with his long statement criticizing his termination: In the middle of it is a line that could be viewed as incriminating fired FBI director James Comey, not just in leaking sensitive information but also in lying to Congress.'
http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/378919-mccabe-just-made-life-tough-for-comey-and-the-special-counsel
After all this time you really don't know how the classification system works, do you.
I doubt HRC is having a big yock about anything.
Are you claiming that neither Comey nor Hillary was victimized by the absurd practice of classifying material after it had been published? Because they "should have known" it was classified?
What are you talking about?
drummerboy said:
BCC said:Are you claiming that neither Comey nor Hillary was victimized by the absurd practice of classifying material after it had been published? Because they "should have known" it was classified?
drummerboy said:
I just think it's wonderfully ironic that Comey is getting called on releasing info that was classified after the fact.
Hillary must be having a big yuck about that one.
'Following his termination late Friday night, former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe declared that he was “singled out” after “unrelenting” attacks by President Trump and critics. McCabe’s objections are less than credible, given the virtually unprecedented recommendation of career officials to fire the one-time acting FBI director.
However, McCabe may have rectified his “singled out” status with his long statement criticizing his termination: In the middle of it is a line that could be viewed as incriminating fired FBI director James Comey, not just in leaking sensitive information but also in lying to Congress.'
http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/378919-mccabe-just-made-life-tough-for-comey-and-the-special-counsel
After all this time you really don't know how the classification system works, do you.
I doubt HRC is having a big yock about anything.
What are you talking about?
You finally got it.
Yes, they are supposed to recognize anything which is going to be classified. That's what 'Born Classified' means.
BCC said:
drummerboy said:You finally got it.
BCC said:Are you claiming that neither Comey nor Hillary was victimized by the absurd practice of classifying material after it had been published? Because they "should have known" it was classified?
drummerboy said:
I just think it's wonderfully ironic that Comey is getting called on releasing info that was classified after the fact.
Hillary must be having a big yuck about that one.
'Following his termination late Friday night, former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe declared that he was “singled out” after “unrelenting” attacks by President Trump and critics. McCabe’s objections are less than credible, given the virtually unprecedented recommendation of career officials to fire the one-time acting FBI director.
However, McCabe may have rectified his “singled out” status with his long statement criticizing his termination: In the middle of it is a line that could be viewed as incriminating fired FBI director James Comey, not just in leaking sensitive information but also in lying to Congress.'
http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/378919-mccabe-just-made-life-tough-for-comey-and-the-special-counsel
After all this time you really don't know how the classification system works, do you.
I doubt HRC is having a big yock about anything.
What are you talking about?
Yes, they are supposed to recognize anything which is going to be classified. That's what 'Born Classified' means.
It's still absurd, and my point remains. Amid all of your posts on classification over the past few years, have you ever remarked upon the ridiculous over classification of information which leads to these absurdities?
eta: and I find it a bit odd that you place such trust in whatever final authority it is that marks info as classified - as if their pronouncements come from god and can't be questioned.
drummerboy said:
BCC said:It's still absurd, and my point remains. Amid all of your posts on classification over the past few years, have you ever remarked upon the ridiculous over classification of information which leads to these absurdities?
drummerboy said:You finally got it.
BCC said:Are you claiming that neither Comey nor Hillary was victimized by the absurd practice of classifying material after it had been published? Because they "should have known" it was classified?
drummerboy said:
I just think it's wonderfully ironic that Comey is getting called on releasing info that was classified after the fact.
Hillary must be having a big yuck about that one.
'Following his termination late Friday night, former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe declared that he was “singled out” after “unrelenting” attacks by President Trump and critics. McCabe’s objections are less than credible, given the virtually unprecedented recommendation of career officials to fire the one-time acting FBI director.
However, McCabe may have rectified his “singled out” status with his long statement criticizing his termination: In the middle of it is a line that could be viewed as incriminating fired FBI director James Comey, not just in leaking sensitive information but also in lying to Congress.'
http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/378919-mccabe-just-made-life-tough-for-comey-and-the-special-counsel
After all this time you really don't know how the classification system works, do you.
I doubt HRC is having a big yock about anything.
What are you talking about?
Yes, they are supposed to recognize anything which is going to be classified. That's what 'Born Classified' means.
eta: and I find it a bit odd that you place such trust in whatever final authority it is that marks info as classified - as if their pronouncements come from god and can't be questioned.
Flailing around trying to cover up the fact that you were in total ignorance as to how the classification system works?
It's your comments which are absurd. and also show your total ignorance .of what I have written
I have in the past said a number of times that the system has been used by people who need CYA.
And in fact, I pointed out the overuse of classification when, as an active reserve US Navy officer I had received documents marked classified for no good reason.
A classic example was the Maneuvering Board, a way of moving ships from one position to another. Of absolutely no value to the Soviets or any one else
And that was not your point. Your point was that documents were classified after the fact ha ha ha
BCC said:
Turley is someone I respect (although there are fewer and fewer people I can say that about),and I have no idea what you are referring to.
You linked an article by Turley. That is what I was referring to.
BCC said:
In the middle of it is a line that could be viewed as incriminating fired FBI director James Comey, not just in leaking sensitive information but also in lying to Congress.'http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/378919-mccabe-just-made-life-tough-for-comey-and-the-special-counsel
As the one anti Hillary individual, for the record, I voted the Demo down ballot and did not vote for President because I didn't think any of them deserved it.
This is supposed to be about Comey, and HRC was added, yet there is not a single mention of the DOJ IG and his investigation and the fact he has recommended criminal prosecution of MCCabe . MCCabe and Comey are now pointing fingers at each other as liars. Hillarys conduct could result in felony charges and Comey as well.
Remains to be seen what Horowitz comes up with in the near future.
No doubt I will have overwhelming agreement with what I just wrote.