Hit the road Tulsi, and don't you come back, no more, no more, no more, no more

STANV said:

 Did you let Elizabeth know about that?

All Sen. Warren is asking is for civility among Democrats. She certainly is not afraid of fighting tough. Ask President Bloomberg.

 Yes, I did.  Nothing was done, because politicians do not have the bandwidth to control hordes of people on the internet.  This discussion is just silly.  

Warren did do a good job with Bloomberg and was amazing in that debate.  The next one not so much.  I'm glad Bloomberg is gone.  I considered him on par with Trump or worse.  I would not have voted for him even if he got the nomination. He's throwing his support now to Biden, which is another reason I don't like Biden.  I really don't like Biden because of his lack of platform, history and funding, but I am super alarmed about his inability to beat Trump.  Even Beto, who was also a weak candidate with his flailing arms and empty platitudes would had a better chance, and that guy was hopeless. 


nan said:

 Yes, I did.  Nothing was done, because politicians do not have the bandwidth to control hordes of people on the internet.  This discussion is just silly.  


Did she or her campaign reply to you?

Beto couldn't get any votes. People have actually voted for Biden. Actually getting votes proves you can get votes, true of both Bernie and Biden. Less so of Liz, Pete, Amy. Not at all true of the others.  


nohero said:

Kamala Harris couldn't be sweet talked into backing Bernie.  This morning: 

Of course not.  Kamala Harris is a loyal establishment hack.  She does as the donors tell her.  That's why I saw through her phony attempt to fake being a progressive and why she always talked out of both sides of her mouth.  She is not on our side. 

When Biden goes down in flames, are some of you finally going to hold the DNC/establishment responsible or are you going to blame it on Bernie and his supporters again?    


STANV said:

Welcome back, Nan. Some of us actually missed you.

"Still crazy after all these years"

If you wanted to stop a Biden nomination you should have supported Elizabeth Warren. Progressive policies without the shtick. 

Bernie is Bernie. As I said:

"Still crazy after all these years"

Thank you for the sentiment.  I missed MOL too, but not sure how long I will be here.  

Why should I have supported Warren?  Warren did not come close to winning a single state and came in third in Massachusetts.  Bernie is still in the race and tied for first place.  I know you could relate to Warren more and she did appeal big time to white suburban voters who are devastated about her dropping out.  They are filling the wall around her law school picture with post it notes. 

So, who are you supporting now?


Who won Massachusetts?  Anyone know?   


Jaytee said:

I wonder if the Bernie cult really understands just how critical this election is. Right now ideology and emotions must take a back seat. I liked Warren, I switched to Bloomberg, Ian now firmly behind Biden. Why? Because overall he has the critical votes we need to get this moron out of the White House. So hold your nose, suck it up and throw your support behind Biden. We don’t need you cultists to go into fetal positions and cry like petulant children who didn’t get the toy you wanted. Grow up! This could very well be the most important election of our lives! Enough with ideology. Let’s get over this hump.

 Love how people use the term "Bernie cult" and then complain about the toxic Bernie supporters on line.

How does Biden have critical votes?  He will lose the youth vote. He has expressed open disdain for millenials.  He has a horrendous record that is a gold mine for the Republicans.  They are already digging up more stuff from Ukraine.  I'm not saying any of it is technically illegal, but it will be a HIllary email deal all over again.  He DID support cutting social security which is a very dangerous position.  They are lying now and saying he did not or that the tapes were altered, but the Republicans will easily be able to show that. 

Biggest of all the guy is senile.  Did you watch my video?  Please explain to me how that guy will not getting eaten for dinner by Trump. 

I agree this is the most important election of our lifetime.  That's why I am back on MOL, to try to show you what alarms me.  The fate of the planet is at stake here, although Biden is not going to save it either. But, Biden cannot beat Trump.  He is not what he once was and is being propped up by the establishment just to stop Bernie Sanders.  They don't care if Trump wins. 


sbenois said:

Who won Massachusetts?  Anyone know?   

Technically Biden, but there was a big difference between the exit polling and the final result.  I'll just leave that there.  


RealityForAll said:

 Nan, nice to see you back.

 Thanks!  We will see how it goes. grin


Nan is back to peddling her youth vote ********.   Nan doesn't like to face reality: Bernie promised the youth vote.  Bernie failed miserably. 


nohero said:

After Trump, we don't need ANOTHER President who runs on resentment, and lies about other people. 

Here's Bernie being nasty about Amy and Pete while pretending to say nice things about them. 

Everything Sanders says here is true. He does compliment them and he means it. They worked hard on their campaigns. I did not like either one, but they were real candidates, unlike Steyer and Bloomberg (mostly Bloomberg).

Where is the resentment and lies? One of Pete's high level staffers tweeted about how he initially said "no" when they told him to shut his campaign down.The tweet was later removed. Reportedly, Obama had to personally call him to get him to drop out. Based on a verbal slip, it sounds like Amy got offered VP, so good for her. The point here is that the donors pulled these candidates out to rearrange the race and to stop Bernie, and got everyone they could think of to endorse Joe. They probably pulled Beto off a skateboard to get him over to a mic.  

All this to give a big advantage to a senile guy who will not defeat Trump and to stop the guy who wanted to give us all health care and to save the planet.  They all know Biden is senile and they should be held responsible later if he gets the nomination and loses to Trump.

What could divide the Democrats more than conspiring to stop Bernie?

The moderate 11th-hour dropouts are craven, not courageous

https://spectator.us/divide-democrats-more-conspiring-stop-bernie/


sbenois said:

Nan is back to peddling her youth vote ********.   Nan doesn't like to face reality: Bernie promised the youth vote.  Bernie failed miserably. 

 See article I posted in my previous post.  Biden is senile and he cannot beat Trump. Biden will not get the youth vote at all.  Why are you supporting Biden?


ridski said:

 Bernie could always back Tulsi. 

 Tulsi is still in the race, as was being discussed in this thread earlier.  Tulsi should be in the next debate, but the DNC changed the rules to exclude her.  They changed the rules to include Bloomberg.  The DNC is not on your side, in case you did not know that.

I don't think Tulsi will win (obviously), but I think her reputation will be restored and I would not be surprised to see her become president some time in the future.  Her time will come, I hope.  


Why should Tulsi be in the next debate?   


nan said:

nohero said:

After Trump, we don't need ANOTHER President who runs on resentment, and lies about other people. 

Here's Bernie being nasty about Amy and Pete while pretending to say nice things about them. 

Everything Sanders says here is true. He does compliment them and he means it. They worked hard on their campaigns. I did not like either one, but they were real candidates, unlike Steyer and Bloomberg (mostly Bloomberg).

Where is the resentment and lies? 

 They're in his statement: 


STANV said:

 We in NJ do not get to vote until June 2nd. By then the Presidential Nomination may be a done deal. If not then I might vote for Bernie or even write in Elizabeth Warren. I also hope to be able to vote for myself as a candidate For District Delegate to the National Convention. 

 New Jersey has a lot of delegates.  We may be more important this time than you might think.  We will see. 


sbenois said:

Why should Tulsi be in the next debate?   

 She got two delegates in American Samoa.  I had heard one, but that it was later changed to two.  I have not been following this closely, but I have seen some discussion about it.  


DaveSchmidt said:

Confusing Biden’s mother with his wife, even with time to think before writing. Cognition can be a fickle target.

 Right, he confused his mother with his sister and vice versa.  I may be turning into Joe Biden myself, but I'm not running for president. 


nan said:

DaveSchmidt said:

Confusing Biden’s mother with his wife, even with time to think before writing. Cognition can be a fickle target.

 Right, he confused his mother with his sister and vice versa.  I may be turning into Joe Biden myself, but I'm not running for president. 

 That's a plus.


nohero said:

It's not Bernie.  

I am well aware of what the attacks on Biden are, as presented in that video.  I know it's painful for you to hear, but you're not bringing *any* new or intelligent arguments to the table. 

Did you watch the video?  If you think Biden is coherent and not impaired, please explain.   You are right that I am not bringing anything new to the table, but it seems the establishment, as represented in the MSM, have been hiding Biden's senility from the public.  They keep him away from the public as much as possible.  He's not on Rachel Maddow or other talk shows.  He only does seven minutes at his rally. 

They are saying it's a sutter.  From my discussions on Facebook, many people are completely unaware that Biden is even having trouble putting sentences together. 

If you think it is intelligent to nominate a senile candidate with more baggage than Newark airport for president against Donald Trump, than let's hear the reasons.  I'm all ears.  


nan said:

 Right, he confused his mother with his sister and vice versa.  I may be turning into Joe Biden myself, but I'm not running for president. 

 But you provide great entertainment. 


nan said:

nohero said:

It's not Bernie.  

I am well aware of what the attacks on Biden are, as presented in that video.  I know it's painful for you to hear, but you're not bringing *any* new or intelligent arguments to the table. 

Did you watch the video?  If you think Biden is coherent and not impaired, please explain.   You are right that I am not bringing anything new to the table, but it seems the establishment, as represented in the MSM, have been hiding Biden's senility from the public.  They keep him away from the public as much as possible.  He's not on Rachel Maddow or other talk shows.  He only does seven minutes at his rally. 

They are saying it's a sutter.  From my discussions on Facebook, many people are completely unaware that Biden is even having trouble putting sentences together. 

If you think it is intelligent to nominate a senile candidate with more baggage than Newark airport for president against Donald Trump, than let's hear the reasons.  I'm all ears.  

 1) He has 100X the international stature of Bernie...with the possible exception of in the Kremlin.

2) He is NOT a Socialist.

3) He IS a real Democrat, not a "convenient, opportunistic" democrat.

4) His policies and plans actually have a chance of being enacted.

5) He will be far more powerful down-ballot than Bernie.

     That's enough for now to fuel your next 1000 posts. Have at it.


STANV said:

Did she or her campaign reply to you?

Beto couldn't get any votes. People have actually voted for Biden. Actually getting votes proves you can get votes, true of both Bernie and Biden. Less so of Liz, Pete, Amy. Not at all true of the others.  

 No, I heard nothing, because these complaints about "Berniebro tweets" is just a smear, not reality.   All campaigns have a subset of mean posters, and candidates cannot control them.  Biden has nasty surrogates and Bernie has recently called for Biden to apologize for one of them.  So far - crickets.  

I agree Beto could not get any votes and had to drop out.  I don't know why Biden gets votes.  I did not see that coming.  


Dennis_Seelbach said:

nan said:

DaveSchmidt said:

Confusing Biden’s mother with his wife, even with time to think before writing. Cognition can be a fickle target.

 Right, he confused his mother with his sister and vice versa.  I may be turning into Joe Biden myself, but I'm not running for president. 

 That's a plus.

 OMG, I'm tying so fast I'm still screwing it up.  He confused his SISTER WITH HIS WIFE and vice versa.  I am doing three things at once here.  I promise I'm not senile.  Yet.  Maybe soon. 


nan said:

Dennis_Seelbach said:

nan said:

DaveSchmidt said:

Confusing Biden’s mother with his wife, even with time to think before writing. Cognition can be a fickle target.

 Right, he confused his mother with his sister and vice versa.  I may be turning into Joe Biden myself, but I'm not running for president. 

 That's a plus.

 OMG, I'm tying so fast I'm still screwing it up.  He confused his SISTER WITH HIS WIFE and vice versa.  I am doing three things at once here.  I promise I'm not senile.  Yet.  Maybe soon. 

 This was an innocent, non-senile mistake based on where he thought they were standing behind him relative to where they were standing. So gimme a break on this one.


nan said:

Dennis_Seelbach said:

nan said:

DaveSchmidt said:

Confusing Biden’s mother with his wife, even with time to think before writing. Cognition can be a fickle target.

 Right, he confused his mother with his sister and vice versa.  I may be turning into Joe Biden myself, but I'm not running for president. 

 That's a plus.

 OMG, I'm tying so fast I'm still screwing it up.  He confused his SISTER WITH HIS WIFE and vice versa.  I am doing three things at once here.  I promise I'm not senile.  Yet.  Maybe soon. 

 Clueless !


Dennis_Seelbach said:

 1) He has 100X the international stature of Bernie...with the possible exception of in the Kremlin.

2) He is NOT a Socialist.

3) He IS a real Democrat, not a "convenient, opportunistic" democrat.

4) His policies and plans actually have a chance of being enacted.

5) He will be far more powerful down-ballot than Bernie.

     That's enough for now to fuel your next 1000 posts. Have at it.

 


nan said:

ridski said:

 Bernie could always back Tulsi. 

 Tulsi is still in the race, as was being discussed in this thread earlier.  Tulsi should be in the next debate, but the DNC changed the rules to exclude her.  They changed the rules to include Bloomberg.  The DNC is not on your side, in case you did not know that.

I don't think Tulsi will win (obviously), but I think her reputation will be restored and I would not be surprised to see her become president some time in the future.  Her time will come, I hope.  

 You have no bloody idea what my side is nan.


nan said:

 OMG, I'm tying so fast I'm still screwing it up.  He confused his SISTER WITH HIS WIFE and vice versa.  I am doing three things at once here.  I promise I'm not senile.  Yet.  Maybe soon. 

 I’m hurt that you’re not giving MOL your undivided attention now. 


Smedley said:

nan said:

Dennis_Seelbach said:

nan said:

DaveSchmidt said:

Confusing Biden’s mother with his wife, even with time to think before writing. Cognition can be a fickle target.

 Right, he confused his mother with his sister and vice versa.  I may be turning into Joe Biden myself, but I'm not running for president. 

 That's a plus.

 OMG, I'm tying so fast I'm still screwing it up.  He confused his SISTER WITH HIS WIFE and vice versa.  I am doing three things at once here.  I promise I'm not senile.  Yet.  Maybe soon. 

 This was an innocent, non-senile mistake based on where he thought they were standing behind him relative to where they were standing. So gimme a break on this one.

 I completely agree - anyone using this "gaff" as a example of senility is insane.  I think nan's video had this as one of their "examples".


ridski said:

 You have no bloody idea what my side is nan.

 Actually, you are right about that.  You have some unusual interests in dystopia that I do not understand.  My apologies. I sincerely hope the DNC is not on your side, but I could easily see Tom Perez as a main character in Margaret Atwood's next book.


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