The Rose Garden and White House happenings: the voters were listening

mtierney said:

Been watching the election news autopsy off and on today and the Democrats seem not to believe the results from across America. So convinced that Trump could not possibly win — even with all the lawfare designed to keep him in courtrooms and off the campaign trail — the Democratic leadership believed that Biden would go gently and that Harris would “waltz” into the White House. Incidentally the powers that be that believed Walz was a good choice, ie safe, nonthreatening veep filler material, were dead wrong. The self-described “knucklehead” and happy bird-shooter was a detriment to Harris from Day One.

Why did Trump triumphantly win? Here are two reasons,,,

stop with the law fare crap. trump took documents belonging to the US and refused to return them. He asked the SOS of Georgia to find him enough votes to win. He paid off a porn star to influence an election by lying about the payments. He incited a riot to try to overturn a legal election. I could go on…I sincerely hope you live a lot longer so you can experience the results of your vote. Be best. 


next up, give us a recap of Biden and family’s corrupt activities from their White House bunker.


mtierney said:

next up, give us a recap of Biden and family’s corrupt activities from their White House bunker.

when you write something as stupid as this, does it not give you even one moment's pause that there isn't a scintilla of evidence of Biden being corrupt?


drummerboy said:

mtierney said:

next up, give us a recap of Biden and family’s corrupt activities from their White House bunker.

when you write something as stupid as this, does it not give you even one moment's pause that there isn't a scintilla of evidence of Biden being corrupt?

Unfortunately for you, the below requires beyond a Seventh Grade reading comprehension, and probably cult deprogramming.

https://oversight.house.gov/blog/evidence-of-joe-bidens-involvement-in-his-familys-influence-peddling-schemes/

https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-mountain-of-evidence-reveals-joe-biden-abused-his-public-office-for-his-familys-financial-gain%EF%BF%BC/

https://reason.com/2023/09/18/theres-plenty-of-evidence-of-corruption-around-biden/


BarneyGumble said:

drummerboy said:

mtierney said:

next up, give us a recap of Biden and family’s corrupt activities from their White House bunker.

when you write something as stupid as this, does it not give you even one moment's pause that there isn't a scintilla of evidence of Biden being corrupt?

Unfortunately for you, the below requires beyond a Seventh Grade reading comprehension, and probably cult deprogramming.

https://oversight.house.gov/blog/evidence-of-joe-bidens-involvement-in-his-familys-influence-peddling-schemes/

https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-mountain-of-evidence-reveals-joe-biden-abused-his-public-office-for-his-familys-financial-gain%EF%BF%BC/

https://reason.com/2023/09/18/theres-plenty-of-evidence-of-corruption-around-biden/

oh look! mr. gumble is trying a substantive post! it has links and everything!!!

I guess all that evidence is why the impeachment effort (announced BEFORE this "evidence") was so successful.

anyway, the yucks are appreciated! keep it up!


so I decided to look at the reason link, since there was something above a zero percent chance it might not be b.s., as they occasionally get something right. looking at excretions from house.gov, however, is beyond the pale. I can debase myself only so far.

but, I was wrong. it was utter b.s. and showed exactly nothing pointing to Joe Biden's "corruption".

so I have to wonder if mr. gumble understood the task. or if he can even read. probably no to both, actually.


drummerboy said:

so I decided to look at the reason link, since there was something above a zero percent chance it might not be b.s., as they occasionally get something right. looking at excretions from house.gov, however, is beyond the pale. I can debase myself only so far.

but, I was wrong. it was utter b.s. and showed exactly nothing pointing to Joe Biden's "corruption".

so I have to wonder if mr. gumble understood the task. or if he can even read. probably no to both, actually.

I doubt he cares. He's here for the liberal tears. 


ml1 said:

I doubt he cares. He's here for the liberal tears. 

There's a lot of that going around.


ml1 said:

drummerboy said:

so I decided to look at the reason link, since there was something above a zero percent chance it might not be b.s., as they occasionally get something right. looking at excretions from house.gov, however, is beyond the pale. I can debase myself only so far.

but, I was wrong. it was utter b.s. and showed exactly nothing pointing to Joe Biden's "corruption".

so I have to wonder if mr. gumble understood the task. or if he can even read. probably no to both, actually.

I doubt he cares. He's here for the liberal tears. 

sure, but what struck me here was that this wasn't his usual hit-and-run LOLKAHMOOLALOST post. it's almost as if he wants to be taken seriously.


The big business of filling cabinet posts in the WSJ today…

    Trump Names Fox News Host Pete Hegseth to Head Pentagon, John Ratcliffe for CIA

    Unconventional choices would place loyalists in top national security positions

    By Alexander Ward andVivian Salama

    Updated Nov. 12, 2024 at 9:10 pm EST


    President-elect Donald Trump has named Pete Hegseth, an Army veteran and Fox News host, as his choice for secretary of defense and John Ratcliffe, a hawkish former House lawmaker, to lead the Central Intelligence Agency, placing loyalists in two key national security positions.

    The selection of defense secretary continues Trump’s practice of turning away from civilians with high-level national security experience to run the Pentagon or to retired officers, which he tried early in his first term when he chose retired Marine Gen. Jim Mattis to run the department.

    “Pete has spent his entire life as a Warrior for the Troops, and for the Country. Pete is tough, smart and a true believer in America First,” Trump said in a statement confirming his selection. In a separate statement, Trump called Ratcliffe a “warrior for Truth and Honesty” and credited him for exposing what Trump called “fake Russian collusion” accusations against his 2016 campaign.

    If confirmed by the Senate, Hegseth would take over the federal government’s biggest department with a budget that last year reached $850 billion, overseeing a workforce of nearly three million civilian workers and military service members, many deployed around the world. He has never held a senior government post, an issue likely to be raised at least by Democrats ahead of a vote on his nomination.

    Hegseth, 44, is a National Guard veteran from Minnesota who has been a commentator on Fox News for the past decade. He once led an advocacy group that sought to privatize healthcare provided by the Department of Veterans Affairs, leading Trump to consider him as VA secretary during his first term.


    He was an infantry captain in the Army National Guard, serving at Guantanamo Bay and later Iraq, according to his Fox News biography. In 2012, Hegseth returned to active duty, serving in Afghanistan with the Minnesota National Guard.

    He left service with the rank of major and is now in the Individual Ready Reserve.

    Hegseth emerged as the front-runner after Sen. Tom Cotton, (R., Ark.), who was considered a favorite for the job, took himself out of the running last week. Trump announced on Friday that Mike Pompeo, his former secretary of state and a possible Pentagon choice, wouldn’t be part of his administration. On Monday, Trump named another contender, Rep. Mike Waltz, a former Green Beret and confidant of the president-elect, to be national security adviser.

    Hegseth interviewed with Trump for the job Tuesday in Mar-a-Lago, and it went well, people familiar with the conversation said.

    Like Trump’s other national security choices, the Fox & Friends Weekend co-host has aligned himself with the president-elect’s views in recent years, playing down the effects of Covid-19 and asserting that the military values diversity and “wokeness” over lethality and readiness.

    Hegseth said in a June interview posted on YouTube that diversity training and other programs promoted by senior officers and civilian officials during the Biden administration are driving midcareer officers out of the armed services.

    “Our general class, our secretary of defense, were interested in being liked by the chattering class,” he said, of current officials in the Biden administration who supported policies promoting diversity.

    Hegseth interviewed Trump for Fox News in 2017. PHOTO: KEVIN LAMARQUE/REUTERS

    Hegseth would take over the Pentagon as it is aiding Ukraine in its war against Russia and engaged in the Middle East, where the Biden administration has helped defend Israel from several attacks from Iran and with weapons used against militant groups in Gaza and Lebanon.

    After Russia began its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022, he said on Fox News that the feeling among conservatives was that the war paled “in comparison to the crime I see in my streets, to the wokeness I see in my culture, to the inflation I see in my pocketbook, to the real border I care about, which is the southern border.”

    Hegseth has indicated that the U.S. focus should be on China, saying in a YouTube interview last week that Beijing’s military buildup is aimed at defeating the U.S. in a war, and warned of Chinese spies in the U.S.

    In choosing Ratcliffe for the CIA, Trump has similarly tapped someone who has backed his views. Trump credited him with “exposing fake Russian collusion,” a reflection of the president-elect’s continuing anger at the intelligence community for its assessment that a large Russian disinformation campaign was aimed at least in part at helping Trump’s candidacy.

    Trump frequently questioned the integrity of U.S. intelligence in the lead-up to his 2016 victory. In December of that year, shortly after his win over Hillary Clinton, he publicly cast doubt on the legitimacy of a U.S. intelligence assessment that Russia interfered with America’s election, in part to bolster his candidacy.

    John Ratcliffe at a White House ceremony in 2020. PHOTO: DOUG MILLS/PRESS POOL

    Current and former senior intelligence officials have warned that Trump, during a second term, might seek to retaliate against his perceived enemies and harness America’s powerful spy agencies for his own political purposes. The antipathy runs the other way, too, making for a potentially toxic relationship between Trump and the intelligence agencies when the U.S. faces global challenges from China, Russia and others.

    Ratcliffe, who served as the representative for Texas’ Fourth Congressional District from 2015 to 2020, was confirmed by a divided Senate in 2020 to be the nation’s intelligence czar, replacing Dan Coats, who resigned after a tenure marked by friction with Trump. During his tenure as director of national intelligence, Ratcliffe focused on the threat from China.

    In addition to war in the Middle East and Ukraine, the agency is grappling with such developments as artificial intelligence and biotechnology, along with a more unforgiving environment for running human spies thanks to widespread electronic surveillance in such countries as China.

    While the CIA and its sister agencies pride themselves on being nonpartisan, in recent years the business of intelligence gathering and analysis has become the subject of bitter political disputes.

    Ratcliffe’s nomination is likely to be greeted with some relief by U.S. intelligence officials, who had feared a more radical nominee, such as Kash Patel, a staunch Trump adviser and ally who served in senior roles under him on the National Security Council staff and in the Pentagon.

    Nancy A. Youssef and Lara Seligman contributed to this article


    drummerboy said:

    ml1 said:

    drummerboy said:

    so I decided to look at the reason link, since there was something above a zero percent chance it might not be b.s., as they occasionally get something right. looking at excretions from house.gov, however, is beyond the pale. I can debase myself only so far.

    but, I was wrong. it was utter b.s. and showed exactly nothing pointing to Joe Biden's "corruption".

    so I have to wonder if mr. gumble understood the task. or if he can even read. probably no to both, actually.

    I doubt he cares. He's here for the liberal tears. 

    sure, but what struck me here was that this wasn't his usual hit-and-run LOLKAHMOOLALOST post. it's almost as if he wants to be taken seriously.

    Barney Grumble is just here for the classifieds lol

    https://maplewood.worldwebs.com/classified/detail/hotel-room-available-trump-inauguration-day-2025


    drummerboy said:

    ml1 said:

    drummerboy said:

    so I decided to look at the reason link, since there was something above a zero percent chance it might not be b.s., as they occasionally get something right. looking at excretions from house.gov, however, is beyond the pale. I can debase myself only so far.

    but, I was wrong. it was utter b.s. and showed exactly nothing pointing to Joe Biden's "corruption".

    so I have to wonder if mr. gumble understood the task. or if he can even read. probably no to both, actually.

    I doubt he cares. He's here for the liberal tears. 

    sure, but what struck me here was that this wasn't his usual hit-and-run LOLKAHMOOLALOST post. it's almost as if he wants to be taken seriously.

    Maybe it forgot the password for its real account.


    So trumpets. We’re looking forward to hearing from you about trump’s nominations thus far. Matt Gaetz is a suspected pedophile. Are you okay with him as attorney general? 


    Jerseyperson said:

    So trumpets. We’re looking forward to hearing from you about trump’s nominations thus far. Matt Gaetz is a suspected pedophile. Are you okay with him as attorney general? 

    See definition attached.  Are you using the same definition of pedophelia?

    if not, what definition are you using?


    To be fairs, Gaetz was merely investigated for sex trafficking and seems to prefer girls in the neighborhood of 18 year of age.  He would have gotten on famously with Epstein.


    tjohn said:

    To be fairs, Gaetz was merely investigated for sex trafficking and seems to prefer girls in the neighborhood of 18 year of age.  He would have gotten on famously with Epstein.

    What was the result of the investigation of Gaetz with regard to sex trafficking?


    RealityForAll said:

    tjohn said:

    To be fairs, Gaetz was merely investigated for sex trafficking and seems to prefer girls in the neighborhood of 18 year of age.  He would have gotten on famously with Epstein.

    What was the result of the investigation of Gaetz with regard to sex trafficking?

    The House Ethics Committee investigation ends when he resigns from the House to become Attorney General - assuming he is confirmed.


    RealityForAll said:

    Jerseyperson said:

    So trumpets. We’re looking forward to hearing from you about trump’s nominations thus far. Matt Gaetz is a suspected pedophile. Are you okay with him as attorney general? 

    See definition attached.  Are you using the same definition of pedophelia?

    if not, what definition are you using?

    it's really a bad look to get technical about the definition of pedophilia.


    tjohn said:

    The House Ethics Committee investigation ends when he resigns from the House to become Attorney General - assuming he is confirmed.


    Then there is this reality…


    Actually, the reality now is that MAGA now has to govern which is a bit different than standing around tossing hand grenade and stink bombs.


    tjohn said:

    Actually, the reality now is that MAGA now has to govern which is a bit different than standing around tossing hand grenade and stink bombs.

    They're going to milk the triumphalism for all they can, because there's nothing substantively good for the U.S. going on behind that curtain.


    drummerboy said:

    RealityForAll said:

    Jerseyperson said:

    So trumpets. We’re looking forward to hearing from you about trump’s nominations thus far. Matt Gaetz is a suspected pedophile. Are you okay with him as attorney general? 

    See definition attached.  Are you using the same definition of pedophelia?

    if not, what definition are you using?

    it's really a bad look to get technical about the definition of pedophilia.

    Is a middle aged man dating 18 year olds a crime?

    Probably not good form; but a crime/pedophelia?

    The pedophelia claims sound more like a slur.  Akin to 1950s claims that labor leaders were "reds."


    RealityForAll said:

    Is a middle aged man dating 18 year olds a crime?

    Probably not good form; but a crime/pedophelia?

    The pedophelia claims sound more like a slur.  Akin to 1950s claims that labor leaders were "reds."

    sure, but this is 21st century America, and any attempt to say "it's not really pedophilia" is met with accusations that you're an apologist for sex with children.

    I stopped trying to argue this point years and years ago. Wasn't worth it.


    drummerboy said:

    RealityForAll said:

    Is a middle aged man dating 18 year olds a crime?

    Probably not good form; but a crime/pedophelia?

    The pedophelia claims sound more like a slur.  Akin to 1950s claims that labor leaders were "reds."

    sure, but this is 21st century America, and any attempt to say "it's not really pedophilia" is met with accusations that you're an apologist for sex with children.

    I stopped trying to argue this point years and years ago. Wasn't worth it.

    Point taken.


    RealityForAll said:

    drummerboy said:

    RealityForAll said:

    Jerseyperson said:

    So trumpets. We’re looking forward to hearing from you about trump’s nominations thus far. Matt Gaetz is a suspected pedophile. Are you okay with him as attorney general? 

    See definition attached.  Are you using the same definition of pedophelia?

    if not, what definition are you using?

    it's really a bad look to get technical about the definition of pedophilia.

    Is a middle aged man dating 18 year olds a crime?

    Probably not good form; but a crime/pedophelia?

    The pedophelia claims sound more like a slur.  Akin to 1950s claims that labor leaders were "reds."

    at least one accusation involves a girl under 18. If you want to defend Gaetz because it's only an accusation and not a conviction I'm with you. 

    But at least get the particulars of the case right. 

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/matt-gaetz-party-minor-news-b2616340.html


    ml1 said:

    at least one accusation involves a girl under 18. If you want to defend Gaetz because it's only an accusation and not a conviction I'm with you. 

    But at least get the particulars of the case right. 

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/matt-gaetz-party-minor-news-b2616340.html

    I think RFA's point is that even 17 or 16  is not technically pedophilia


    drummerboy said:

    ml1 said:

    at least one accusation involves a girl under 18. If you want to defend Gaetz because it's only an accusation and not a conviction I'm with you. 

    But at least get the particulars of the case right. 

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/matt-gaetz-party-minor-news-b2616340.html

    I think RFA's point is that even 17 or 16  is not technically pedophilia

    but it is a felony in FL. 

    You say pedophilia, I say felony. 

    Potato, potahto, right?


    I mean what kind of person would defend a guy like Gaetz by making the excuse that he's accused of rape and not pedophilia?

    Remember when the right wingers claimed moral relativism was an abomination? 



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