The Rose Garden and White House happenings: the voters were listening
drummerboy said:
it was all about the price of gas.
with a side of race and gender
tjohn said:
drummerboy said:
it was all about the price of gas.
with a side of race and gender
With the electoral college numbers clocked at 4:22 pm today — Harris 226/Trump 292 — Where do you plan to relocate? opps, Kamala is finally giving her acceptance speech — better late than never
BTW, Billionaire Oprah Winfrey intoned on Monday that a win for Trump would spell the end of democracy! How insulting! Such chutzpah!
If we don’t learn from our mistakes, we are doomed to repeat them …the WSJ today explains what happened Tuesday across the nation — in a nutshell.
“If Democrats want some sage counsel on how to recover from their electoral drubbing on Tuesday, we suggest they recall that classic relationship breakup line from Seinfeld’s George Costanza: “It’s not you; it’s me.”
“The temptation after a defeat this humiliating is to hunt for scapegoats—fading Joe Biden, untutored Kamala Harris, Russian disinformation, benighted and racist voters. They’d be wiser to look in the mirror. “The defeat was less a resounding endorsement of Mr. Trump than a repudiation of progressive governance. America rejected the consequences of left-wing policies. Democrats lost ground from 2020 across many demographic groups, according to the exit polls. Even women moved percentage points closer to Mr. Trump. How could Democrats possibly lose like this to a man they think is Hitler? Allow us to offer a list for liberal reflection:
• The failure of Bidenomics. Democrats once understood that private business drives growth and higher incomes. Sometime in the 21st century, they came to believe that government spending creates wealth—via the “Keynesian multiplier” and other nostrums.
Thus they passed, on a party-line vote, a $1.9 trillion pandemic-relief bill that wasn’t really needed, fueling the highest inflation in decades. This robbed millions of workers of real wage gains, which haunted Democrats on Tuesday as two-thirds of voters said they were unhappy with the state of the economy.
• Cultural imperialism. Democrats took their 2020 victory as an invitation to turn identity politics into woke policy. They stood with transgender activists instead of parents who don’t want boys to play girls sports or elementary teachers to pass out pronoun pins. Republicans hammered Democrats with ads that attacked Democratic votes against tying federal funds to transgender school policies.
Democrats also began using the term “Latinx,” which sounds to many Spanish-speakers like illiterate cultural imperialism from elites. Could that and other woke policies have played a role in Mr. Trump winning 46% of the Hispanic vote and 55% of Latino men, according to the exit polls?
• Regulatory coercion. In pursuit of their climate obsessions, Democrats pushed coercive mandates, including an EPA rule effectively saying that by 2032 only 30% of new car sales can be gas-powered models. The EV mandate caused layoffs among auto workers in Michigan that Mr. Trump attacked in TV ads and on the stump.
• Lawfare. Democrats used Mr. Trump’s divisiveness to escalate against him at every turn. After calling him a Russian stooge and impeaching him twice, Mr. Biden labeled him a “fascist” and Democrats tried to bar him from the ballot.
They criminally indicted Mr. Trump—four times—and targeted his family business with a civil suit. They convicted him in New York, under an elected Democratic prosecutor who stretched the law to turn misdemeanors into felonies, in a case that wouldn’t have been brought against another businessman.
The strategy turned Mr. Trump into a martyr to GOP voters and cemented his support in the Republican primaries.
• Breaking democratic norms. Democrats decided to use taxes from plumbers and welders to forgive college loans for lawyers and grad students in grievance studies. When the Supreme Court struck Mr. Biden’s effort down as an abuse of power, he tried again and taunted the Court to stop him.
Democrats tried to override the Senate filibuster to seize control of the nation’s voting laws and impose practices such as ballot harvesting, as Mr. Biden raged that his opponents were creating “Jim Crow 2.0.”
They tried to override the filibuster to pass a national abortion law that would go beyond Roe v. Wade. They promised to override the filibuster in 2025 to bulldoze the High Court. They ran Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema out of the party for disagreeing.
All of this and other progressive preoccupations caused Democrats to lose sight of the larger public interest. They came to believe, backed by the mainstream press, that voters would tolerate it all because Mr. Trump was simply unacceptable.
This opened the door for Mr. Trump to remind voters that they were better off under his policies four years earlier. Mr. Trump won more than 72 million ballots. He improved his standing with minority voters. He gained votes even in Democratic states.
Voters were telling Democrats on Tuesday that the party has wandered into ideological fever swamps where most Americans don’t want to go. Winning those voters again will require more than firing back up the anti-Trump “resistance.”
That’s largely ****
if not for inflation, I could imagine different results on Tuesday
tjohn said:
That’s largely ****
if not for inflation, I could imagine different results on Tuesday
these magats are actually okay with prices going up, it’s the price they’re prepared to pay for the deportations of millions of brown people. It’s the migrant crisis, not the price of milk at Publix…
Jaytee said:
these magats are actually okay with prices going up, it’s the price they’re prepared to pay for the deportations of millions of brown people. It’s the migrant crisis, not the price of milk at Publix…
I don't see many of the talking heads discussing it but how does 10% tariffs and mass deportations not equal double digit inflation?
GoSlugs said:
I don't see many of the talking heads discussing it but how does 10% tariffs and mass deportations not equal double digit inflation?
I've seen this publicized quite a bit myself.
drummerboy said:
I've seen this publicized quite a bit myself.
Hmmm... I guess we read different things.
GoSlugs said:
drummerboy said:
I've seen this publicized quite a bit myself.
Hmmm... I guess we read different things.
I have no doubt about that.
drummerboy said:
GoSlugs said:
drummerboy said:
I've seen this publicized quite a bit myself.
Hmmm... I guess we read different things.
I have no doubt about that.
Maybe more that I don't watch televised news so I miss a lot of what Rachel and other people with only one name are saying. It can be a bit of a handicap when trying to understand the zeitgeist but I honestly don't regret it even a little bit.
I watch very little TV news, though I do watch Maddow, but she's only on once a week, and I frankly don't recall her ever mentioning the economic effects of either tariffs or deportations. I watch several youtubers whom I've come to trust, read a handful of old-style blogs and subscribe to a ton of newsletters.
drummerboy said:
I watch very little TV news, though I do watch Maddow, but she's only on once a week, and I frankly don't recall her ever mentioning the economic effects of either tariffs or deportations. I watch several youtubers whom I've come to trust, read a handful of old-style blogs and subscribe to a ton of newsletters.
No! Not youtube!
That path leads to the dark side.
I just read way more Canadian media these days than American stuff. It has a very different slant.
GoSlugs said:
drummerboy said:
I watch very little TV news, though I do watch Maddow, but she's only on once a week, and I frankly don't recall her ever mentioning the economic effects of either tariffs or deportations. I watch several youtubers whom I've come to trust, read a handful of old-style blogs and subscribe to a ton of newsletters.
No! Not youtube!
That path leads to the dark side.
I just read way more Canadian media these days than American stuff. It has a very different slant.
the value of every media source depends on who you choose to stick with and who you choose to discard. there is an enormous amount to be learned from youtubers.
e.g. I came across this guy today and took a chance to listen. I heard from him at least two things that I had not heard before, both quite insightful. In retrospect perhaps kind of obvious, yet I hadn't heard those points before.
I live in one of the blue areas where there are more people than cows.
The blue dot in my profile pic is where I live.
drummerboy said:
I live in one of the blue areas where there are more people than cows.
The blue dot in my profile pic is where I live.
Looks like there are lots of Republican cows in Ohio.
drummerboy said:
GoSlugs said:
drummerboy said:
I watch very little TV news, though I do watch Maddow, but she's only on once a week, and I frankly don't recall her ever mentioning the economic effects of either tariffs or deportations. I watch several youtubers whom I've come to trust, read a handful of old-style blogs and subscribe to a ton of newsletters.
No! Not youtube!
That path leads to the dark side.
I just read way more Canadian media these days than American stuff. It has a very different slant.
the value of every media source depends on who you choose to stick with and who you choose to discard. there is an enormous amount to be learned from youtubers.
e.g. I came across this guy today and took a chance to listen. I heard from him at least two things that I had not heard before, both quite insightful. In retrospect perhaps kind of obvious, yet I hadn't heard those points before.
i believe his name is Konstantin Kissin
RealityForAll said:
drummerboy said:
GoSlugs said:
drummerboy said:
I watch very little TV news, though I do watch Maddow, but she's only on once a week, and I frankly don't recall her ever mentioning the economic effects of either tariffs or deportations. I watch several youtubers whom I've come to trust, read a handful of old-style blogs and subscribe to a ton of newsletters.
No! Not youtube!
That path leads to the dark side.
I just read way more Canadian media these days than American stuff. It has a very different slant.
the value of every media source depends on who you choose to stick with and who you choose to discard. there is an enormous amount to be learned from youtubers.
e.g. I came across this guy today and took a chance to listen. I heard from him at least two things that I had not heard before, both quite insightful. In retrospect perhaps kind of obvious, yet I hadn't heard those points before.
i believe his name is Konstantin Kissin
there are two people in the video. the one I got the insights from is definitely not Kissin, if in fact that's him. (I think it is, but I'm not familiar with him apart from this vid.) I am talking about the guy who produced the video. His name is Shahid Bolsen. He's the man worth listening to. Kissin speaks garbage.
mtierney said:
drummerboy said:
I live in one of the blue areas where there are more people than cows.
The blue dot in my profile pic is where I live.
Looks like there are lots of Republican cows in Ohio.
sure there are. and as we know, cows are pretty **** stupid, so that explains a lot.
Took a wild chance and posted a free WSJ article, along with story from the Times today that just might shock and awe MOL!
Regarding lawfare, lies and gaslighting.
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China is ready with a stimulus plan should Trump win. I'm not an economist, but this looks like evidence of a possible tariff escalation war and guaranteed runaway inflation.
https://www.scmp.com/economy/policy/article/3285148/us-election-could-shape-chinas-long-awaited-fiscal-stimulus-package-analysts?module=top_story&pgtype=homepage