The Fight for Kherson

We shall go on till the end...

We shall fight on the seas and oceans...

We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be...

We shall never surrender!


"Russian units in and around Kherson — a southern Ukrainian city currently occupied by Russian forces and one which Ukraine has launched a counteroffensive to reclaim — are likely to be undermanned and could lack cohesion, according to the latest intelligence from the U.K.

“The Southern Military District’s (SMD) 49th Combined Arms Army has highly likely been augmented with components of the Eastern Military District’s (EMD) 35th Combined Arms Army. Most of the [Russian] units around Kherson are likely under-manned and are reliant upon fragile supply lines by ferry and pontoon bridges across the Dnipro,” Britain’s Ministry of Defense said on Twitter Tuesday.

The ministry said that the integration of SMD and EMD units “suggests a significant reorganization of Russia’s force in Ukraine.”

The ministry added that “there is a realistic possibility that Russia has moved to rationalise the several, semi-independent, operational commands which contributed to its poor performance early in the invasion” and that if Ukraine succeeds in undertaking sustained offensive operations in the Kherson direction, “the cohesion of this untested structure will likely be a key factor in the sustainability of Russian defences in the south.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/30/russia-ukraine-live-updates.html


"A spokesperson for Ukraine’s southern military command told NBC News on Monday that Russian troops were retreating from some areas where Ukraine has launched a counteroffensive.

Ukrainian forces began the counteroffensive to retake the Russian-occupied territory of Kherson, the military command announced on Monday."

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/30/russia-ukraine-live-updates.html


cramer said:

"A spokesperson for Ukraine’s southern military command told NBC News on Monday that Russian troops were retreating from some areas where Ukraine has launched a counteroffensive.

Ukrainian forces began the counteroffensive to retake the Russian-occupied territory of Kherson, the military command announced on Monday."

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/30/russia-ukraine-live-updates.html

thanks for posting this. I was gonna mention it along with the fact that the pontoon bridge the Russian army was building to move their vehicles was destroyed yesterday. They were building it right alongside the bridge that was destroyed a week ago. The only bridges left intact are pedestrian bridges. The counteroffensive is well underway. 
SLAVA UKRAINI


They finally launched it but it's seems more PR than real gains. 


nan said:

They finally launched it but it's seems more PR than real gains. 

the day the last Russian invader crosses the border back into Russia is the day you will claim he went home to get some caviar…


Jaytee said:

nan said:

They finally launched it but it's seems more PR than real gains. 

the day the last Russian invader crosses the border back into Russia is the day you will claim he went home to get some caviar…

I did not claim anything.  I'm just showing some other opinions about the war you might not have heard.  Here is another one:


As we all know, Ukraine did not defend Kyiv, the Russians simply left as a gesture of goodwill and because their real objective was elsewhere. I look forward to the Russians similarly retreating from all of Ukraine as we learn that this entire war was a grand diversion to distract from Russia's true goal of becoming a vassal state to China.


PVW said:

As we all know, Ukraine did not defend Kyiv, the Russians simply left as a gesture of goodwill and because their real objective was elsewhere. I look forward to the Russians similarly retreating from all of Ukraine as we learn that this entire war was a grand diversion to distract from Russia's true goal of becoming a vassal state to China.

Here, take my oil at a 30% discount. I need it to finance my war. 


Ukrainian armed forces have broken through the first line of defense on the Russian invaders. All the separatists and Russian paratroopers have already fled… stay tuned. I’m trying as hard as I can to get you to take your peptides 


Kherson - What went wrong.  This is detailed and fair minded.  Those of you who enjoy hearing about strategy and equipment will find it interesting. 


And you're a big fan of The New Atlas?

Here's one interesting story Brian came out with:

The New Atlas is a platform for Brian Berletic, also known as Tony Cartalucci, that “provides geopolitical analysis”. Its YouTube channel has 108,000 subscribers and has had over 7.6 million views on its content since 2011. The New Atlas has previously questioned the Bucha atrocities in a video dubbed “Why Ukraine’s “Massacre” Story Isn’t Adding Up”. The video has over 91,000 views.

In a 6-minute monologue to camera, Brian Berletic linked the Buffalo shooter to the Azov Battalion through the Black Sun emblazoned on his chest and suggested that the United States is not just responsible for his radicalisation but is actively stoking neo-Nazi radicalisation in Ukraine. Berletic linked it to the US and its relationship with “jihadists” in Syria in the description of the video. The video had more than 54,000 views as of May 16. He claimed, “this toxic ideology that infected this killer who killed these people in Buffalo New York, they are encouraging it, enabling it, and exploiting it elsewhere in Ukraine.”

again something nan is probably 100% in agreement with:


nan said:

Kherson - What went wrong.  This is detailed and fair minded.  Those of you who enjoy hearing about strategy and equipment will find it interesting. 

What was your biggest takeaway?  I couldn't get past 2 minutes.  Why can't you give us a sentence or two to sum up your point instead of writing a book and posting long videos?  What's he's saying is 100% speculation saying that the Russian army is doing just fine - don't listen to the MSM - right?


jamie said:

And you're a big fan of The New Atlas?

Here's one interesting story Brian came out with:

The New Atlas is a platform for Brian Berletic, also known as Tony Cartalucci, that “provides geopolitical analysis”. Its YouTube channel has 108,000 subscribers and has had over 7.6 million views on its content since 2011. The New Atlas has previously questioned the Bucha atrocities in a video dubbed “Why Ukraine’s “Massacre” Story Isn’t Adding Up”. The video has over 91,000 views.

In a 6-minute monologue to camera, Brian Berletic linked the Buffalo shooter to the Azov Battalion through the Black Sun emblazoned on his chest and suggested that the United States is not just responsible for his radicalisation but is actively stoking neo-Nazi radicalisation in Ukraine. Berletic linked it to the US and its relationship with “jihadists” in Syria in the description of the video. The video had more than 54,000 views as of May 16. He claimed, “this toxic ideology that infected this killer who killed these people in Buffalo New York, they are encouraging it, enabling it, and exploiting it elsewhere in Ukraine.”

again something nan is probably 100% in agreement with:

Yes, I mostly agree with that. 


jamie said:

nan said:

Kherson - What went wrong.  This is detailed and fair minded.  Those of you who enjoy hearing about strategy and equipment will find it interesting. 

What was your biggest takeaway?  I couldn't get past 2 minutes.  Why can't you give us a sentence or two to sum up your point instead of writing a book and posting long videos?  What's he's saying is 100% speculation saying that the Russian army is doing just fine - don't listen to the MSM - right?

Why did you stop at two minutes? He seems professional and fair minded in this video?   

Do you think the Ukrainians are winning this offensive? 


nan said:

jamie said:

And you're a big fan of The New Atlas?

Here's one interesting story Brian came out with:

The New Atlas is a platform for Brian Berletic, also known as Tony Cartalucci, that “provides geopolitical analysis”. Its YouTube channel has 108,000 subscribers and has had over 7.6 million views on its content since 2011. The New Atlas has previously questioned the Bucha atrocities in a video dubbed “Why Ukraine’s “Massacre” Story Isn’t Adding Up”. The video has over 91,000 views.

In a 6-minute monologue to camera, Brian Berletic linked the Buffalo shooter to the Azov Battalion through the Black Sun emblazoned on his chest and suggested that the United States is not just responsible for his radicalisation but is actively stoking neo-Nazi radicalisation in Ukraine. Berletic linked it to the US and its relationship with “jihadists” in Syria in the description of the video. The video had more than 54,000 views as of May 16. He claimed, “this toxic ideology that infected this killer who killed these people in Buffalo New York, they are encouraging it, enabling it, and exploiting it elsewhere in Ukraine.”

again something nan is probably 100% in agreement with:

Yes, I mostly agree with that. 

Of course, a pro-Assad and pro-Putin propagandist.

You'll excuse me if I discount anything else you post as being completely false, if that's your standard of reference.


nan said:

Why did you stop at two minutes? He seems professional and fair minded in this video?   

Do you think the Ukrainians are winning this offensive? 

We don't know at this point, so engaging with pro-Putin "Woo-hoo, more dead Ukrainians!" war porn is a pointless exercise.


nohero said:

nan said:

jamie said:

And you're a big fan of The New Atlas?

Here's one interesting story Brian came out with:

The New Atlas is a platform for Brian Berletic, also known as Tony Cartalucci, that “provides geopolitical analysis”. Its YouTube channel has 108,000 subscribers and has had over 7.6 million views on its content since 2011. The New Atlas has previously questioned the Bucha atrocities in a video dubbed “Why Ukraine’s “Massacre” Story Isn’t Adding Up”. The video has over 91,000 views.

In a 6-minute monologue to camera, Brian Berletic linked the Buffalo shooter to the Azov Battalion through the Black Sun emblazoned on his chest and suggested that the United States is not just responsible for his radicalisation but is actively stoking neo-Nazi radicalisation in Ukraine. Berletic linked it to the US and its relationship with “jihadists” in Syria in the description of the video. The video had more than 54,000 views as of May 16. He claimed, “this toxic ideology that infected this killer who killed these people in Buffalo New York, they are encouraging it, enabling it, and exploiting it elsewhere in Ukraine.”

again something nan is probably 100% in agreement with:

Yes, I mostly agree with that. 

Of course, a pro-Assad and pro-Putin propagandist.

You'll excuse me if I discount anything else you post as being completely false, if that's your standard of reference.

You think that about everyone I post. Did you listen to the video? Do you have an issue with what he actually says? 


nohero said:

nan said:

Why did you stop at two minutes? He seems professional and fair minded in this video?   

Do you think the Ukrainians are winning this offensive? 

We don't know at this point, so engaging with pro-Putin "Woo-hoo, more dead Ukrainians!" war porn is a pointless exercise.

Ok, you did not listen to the video.  Got that questioned answered. 


nan said:

You think that about everyone I post. Did you listen to the video? Do you have an issue with what he actually says? 

You don't assess a source by just "listening to what he says". You're an intelligent and educated adult, I shouldn't have to tell you that.


nan said:

Why did you stop at two minutes? He seems professional and fair minded in this video?   

Do you think the Ukrainians are winning this offensive? 

Seems?  LOL

I have zero idea if they're winning the offensive.  


nan said:

Yes, I mostly agree with that. 

Maybe we should hire Vlad to take care of our nazi issue.  Perhaps he has a few Wagner buddies who aren't busy.  Oh wait they're nazis too - how did he get around that one?   LOL


nohero said:

nan said:

You think that about everyone I post. Did you listen to the video? Do you have an issue with what he actually says? 

You don't assess a source by just "listening to what he says". You're an intelligent and educated adult, I shouldn't have to tell you that.

I should not have to tell you that "listening to what he says" should be a part of your evaluation.  When are you going to stop attacking him and move on to that phase?


nan said:

nohero said:

nan said:

You think that about everyone I post. Did you listen to the video? Do you have an issue with what he actually says? 

You don't assess a source by just "listening to what he says". You're an intelligent and educated adult, I shouldn't have to tell you that.

I should not have to tell you that "listening to what he says" should be a part of your evaluation.  When are you going to stop attacking him and move on to that phase?

You "listen to what he says" but don't accept it unquestioningly just because he "sounds" like he knows.

And this guy clearly is a pro-Putin propagandist, who tells easily debunkable lies.


I look at the amount of Russian ammunition depots being blown up in Kherson every day. I look at the daily bombing of Russian pontoons in the Dnipro river. I look at the first line of Russian defense being overrun. What I am happy about is zelensky finally blocking these so called “journalists” from filming the actual events thereby exposing his army’s positions. Too much information. The Russian sympathizers are giving out information and causing casualties. It’s a freakin war. Enough with the morons who “seem” to be intelligent…


nohero said:

nan said:

nohero said:

nan said:

You think that about everyone I post. Did you listen to the video? Do you have an issue with what he actually says? 

You don't assess a source by just "listening to what he says". You're an intelligent and educated adult, I shouldn't have to tell you that.

I should not have to tell you that "listening to what he says" should be a part of your evaluation.  When are you going to stop attacking him and move on to that phase?

You "listen to what he says" but don't accept it unquestioningly just because he "sounds" like he knows.

And this guy clearly is a pro-Putin propagandist, who tells easily debunkable lies.

He has a military background.  He's an expert. You might not agree with him, but he's qualified to speak.  I can't make you listen outside of your comfort zone so I'm just going to let this go. 


Interesting Russia paused one referendum in Kherson:

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-kherson-defense-kyiv-counteroffensive-referendum-paused-1739879


Jaytee said:

I look at the amount of Russian ammunition depots being blown up in Kherson every day. I look at the daily bombing of Russian pontoons in the Dnipro river. I look at the first line of Russian defense being overrun. What I am happy about is zelensky finally blocking these so called “journalists” from filming the actual events thereby exposing his army’s positions. Too much information. The Russian sympathizers are giving out information and causing casualties. It’s a freakin war. Enough with the morons who “seem” to be intelligent…

Those darn journalists---telling the truth about war.  So glad we don't have that. 


jamie said:

Interesting Russia paused one referendum in Kherson:

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-kherson-defense-kyiv-counteroffensive-referendum-paused-1739879

I thought there were no journalists allowed so as not to give away position?   Have to do the PR though, right?


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