Senate passes Sunshine Protection bill making Daylight Savings Time permanent

RTrent said:

max_weisenfeld said:

RTrent said:

They may have tried but they certainly did a lousy job of it considering what we see in the time zone map posted by PVW. Some U.S. time zones span over three hours of sunlight time. The actual times for most people are way off from noon when the sun is immediately overhead, which may be up to 1 1/2 hours either way.

Each zone covers roughly one hour, not three. 

Maybe I didn't explain it well. I clarified with a highlight. But try, again, to read what I wrote.

@RTrent : I'm not clear what you're trying to say either. The color variations on the map are in half-hour increments. Are you counting them as an hour?


RTrent said:

Maybe I didn't explain it well. I clarified with a highlight. But try, again, to read what I wrote.

You explained yourself quite clearly. You're just wrong. You make a jump from 'some zones span 3 hours' to 'the actual times for most people are 1 1/2 hours off' that is unsupported by the map or by any other facts



sprout said:

RTrent said:

max_weisenfeld said:

RTrent said:

They may have tried but they certainly did a lousy job of it considering what we see in the time zone map posted by PVW. Some U.S. time zones span over three hours of sunlight time. The actual times for most people are way off from noon when the sun is immediately overhead, which may be up to 1 1/2 hours either way.

Each zone covers roughly one hour, not three. 

Maybe I didn't explain it well. I clarified with a highlight. But try, again, to read what I wrote.

@RTrent : I'm not clear what you're trying to say either. The color variations on the map are in half-hour increments. Are you counting them as an hour?

Sorry.

I counted in 1/2 hour increments but I mistakenly said the time span can be three hours instead of 2 hours. For example in some of North Dakota the map show sunrise is 10:00 am or later whereas in Alabama its between 7:30 and 8:00 am, within the same time zone. So the immediate overhead of sun noon time can vary quite a bit within a time zone.

This will be talked to death, agonized over with studies galore and with every pressure group and stake holder getting their five cents in to build their gravitas and maintain their relevancy.

I hope I'm wrong. But after being talked to death by the five centers, nothing will get done. So we will have to endure living with this twice a year changing of clocks.


PVW said:

New, worse plan - constitutional amendment to redraw all the states as roughly north-south columns. We'll have 50 very long, very narrow states. Everyone will be on the right time zone, but it's really going to make the Senate malapportionment problem a lot worse.

New even worse plan: the 50 long narrow states change their angles with the tilt of the earth. So, they would tilt like the colors on the sunrise map on the previous page in the Winter, and shift to tilt the other way in the Summer. Your timezone AND your state of residence could change across the year! grin


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