Horrifying to read this. Bicyclist fatalities seem to be increasing everywhere.
Have to admit my first thought was, why was someone riding at 2:30 in the morning, but I suppose that isn't the point. Terrible.
brealer said:
To the family of the cyclist--I'm sorry for your trouble.
What is this supposed to mean?
It shouldn’t matter what time the person was riding- geez. Maybe he had a job at a bar that got off late or was trying to be responsible and not driving after a few beers or maybe he just wanted to. Doesn’t make it any less sad.
"I'm sorry for your trouble" is a bit of an odd phrase, but it is/was common to express condolences in some cultures, such as Irish folks of a certain age.
Agree, the timing doesn't matter but it did jump out at me.
apple44 said:
"I'm sorry for your trouble" is a bit of an odd phrase, but it is/was common to express condolences in some cultures, such as Irish folks of a certain age.
Agree, the timing doesn't matter but it did jump out at me.
If that’s true about the cultural reason for the statement, I apologize.
conandrob240 said:
brealer said:What is this supposed to mean?
To the family of the cyclist--I'm sorry for your trouble.
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May his/her memory be for a blessing
http://www.irelands-hidden-gems.com/irish-sayings.html
If someone dies ‘we say sorry for your trouble’ without even mentioning the person's name or the sad event. It’s a great cover all that avoids the possibility of saying the wrong thing in awkward situations.
https://www.nj.com/essex/index.ssf/2018/07/post_86.html
"The bicyclist who died in a collision with a car Saturday has been identified as 29-year-old Jeffrey Scott, of Vauxhall, the Essex County Prosecutor's Office said."
apple44 said:
"I'm sorry for your trouble" is a bit of an odd phrase, but it is/was common to express condolences in some cultures, such as Irish folks of a certain age.
Indeed. The term "The Troubles" is commonly used, in modern times. to refer to thirty years of conflict in Northern Ireland. I personally take it to mean great sorrow and unimaginable loss.
Just for the record, it was not my intention to evoke The Troubles with this poor family who have lost a loved one in Maplewood NJ in 2018. I have been using the phrase as a generic expression of condolence for decades. But I see that it is not received that way. Point taken. Let me try again: I am sorry for the family's loss.
I'm guessing most people did a little mental double take when they saw that the victim was biking at 2:30 a.m. It doesn't imply any wrongdoing on the young man's part.
it never crossed my mind to notice or care what time the incident occurred.
Do a double-take, because it’s unusual, but keep in mind that lots of us have had late-night jobs that put us on the streets in the wee hours.
brealer said:
Just for the record, it was not my intention to evoke The Troubles with this poor family who have lost a loved one in Maplewood NJ in 2018. I have been using the phrase as a generic expression of condolence for decades. But I see that it is not received that way. Point taken. Let me try again: I am sorry for the family's loss.
Please don't apologize. I was happy to learn this expression, just as, being from a deeply Catholic hometown, I'm interested in learning the Jewish terms of condolence ("may ... memory be a blessing") and other expressions ("oy vey!").
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https://www.nj.com/essex/index.ssf/2018/07/bicyclist_dead_after_being_hit_by_car.html
"A bicyclist has died after being hit by a car on the 1600 block of Springfield Ave in Maplewood early Saturday morning, police say.
The cyclist was pronounced dead shortly after the accident around 2:30 a.m., according to Thomas Fennelly a spokesperson for the Essex County Prosecutor's office. "
No real details in the story